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Spouse on board?

How many of you had/are having trouble convincing your spouse/significant other that it is reasonable to buy a Model S?

If there are objections, what are they? Money? Perceived practicality? Cost comparison to an equivalent ICE (as if there really were such a thing...)?

My wife is not enthusiastic, but she has slowly accepted the fact that I'm buying one. I even caught her on the Design Studio once looking at different colors :) So I think she's decided to enjoy it since it is pretty much inevitable.

Michael23 | 05. oktober 2012

Let her test drive. Mine was sold!

jat | 05. oktober 2012

We had a discussion about the finances and once she was convinced we still had sufficient reserves to handle unexpected unemployment or other disasters, she was fully on board.

mrspaghetti | 05. oktober 2012

She was in the back seat (along with my little boy) when I test drove. She does not dispute that it's an uber-awesome car, it's mostly the price tag that makes her swallow hard.

My explanation that you have to deduct $15k-$25k from the cost of ownership due to not having to buy gas was initially ignored, but I think it has slowly sunken in. If you add up the gas & maintenance, her BMW X3 doesn't cost much less over 8 years, and of course the Model S is infinitely cooler in every way.

s_curve | 05. oktober 2012

My wife didn't have issues with the styling, cost or the fact that I was committed. She did, however, ask a lot of questions that were born out of 'range anxiety'. You have to understand, we've all been programmed by conventional gas combustion engines for so long, most people won't even get the paradigm shift being offered up by Tesla. Anyway, the thing that finally got her fully on board was her participation in the Get Amped test drive. I let her videotape me pushing the Performance MS that I took out. Now she is more anxious about delivery than I am.

noel.smyth | 05. oktober 2012

My wife has been totally onboard and even encouraged me to get this over the other electric options out there.

Sudre_ | 05. oktober 2012

My wife is on board because I want one. If she had her way I would just get a very small car that is well under $20,000. She owns a 2000 Toyota Echo and the only features it has is an AM/FM cassette player and it's an automatic. She is perfectly happy with the car and wants nothing more.
She does not expect me to adopt her standards. We have saved for this car so she has no problems buying it since we have the cash.

petero | 05. oktober 2012

My wife was getting very “Tesla Cool” because I was constantly talking about the “S.” So I resolved my problem last October by inviting her to join me at the Tesla Fremont Factory Event. She was sold just looking at the clay mock-up in the factory entrance. On the way home, her question was, “why don’t you get a Signature so we can get it sooner?”

P.S. Be careful what you wish for, I wanted my wife on board – now it is her car!

Jewsh | 05. oktober 2012

My wife encouraged me to look at the Tesla over a BMW because she is interested in getting completely off of gas and looking towards the future.

Initially she was adamant that the maintenance costs would be lower, but perhaps that's not the case anymore...

Beaker | 05. oktober 2012

If you have a store near by drag her in and let her loose on he Tesla personnel. My wife didn't attend the test ride because she wasn't all that interested. Even the test drive held little interest for her.

When it was time to configure we went to the Santana Row store because we both wanted to see the colors in real life. The store was fairly empty (9:30am) and the manager sat my wife in the front seat of the car and my wife started asking questions, 90 minutes later she had opted to upgrade to performance and were were signing the paperwork.

modelsboy | 05. oktober 2012

My wife wanted to use the same amount of money to buy two Nissan Leaves or similar electric cars instead of one. I overruled her with all my available physical and mentally power :) Now she is looking forward for the Model S to be delivered (paperwork says Nov-Dec 12). Like President Obama said, sometime you really have to say No to your own party for what you believe in :) I am confident that she will not be disappointed. But if she is, I will volunteer to drive it all the time :)

jbunn | 05. oktober 2012

I have a 14 yo Ford explorer with 210,000 miles. 45 k new. And I love it. That same today gets about the same MPG. At $4.00 a gal, thats 45k in gas over its life. So its a 90k truck. Gas is artificaly low in the US, so over the next 14 years, im guessing it will average over $4.00 gal. I keep my cars a long time and take care of them. When I did the math on paper, 72k looked good to her. Then we went to the factory last year. No doubt its real once youve seen that. Plus, ive been saving for two years, so its not a whim. Fourth, I gave up color choices to her. Last, I let her take my testdrive, and I took the back seat.

So she's 100% onboard. And as it turns out my 70 mile daily commute went to telecommute, so she might get it, and I get the c70. And I know shes gonna love cabin pre heating in the winters!

BYT | 05. oktober 2012

Mine is apprehensive only because of the cost, and yes, she test drove the Model S but didn't open her up like any of us here have. She knows it's a great car, but suffers from a bad case of sticker shock.

mitrabbit | 05. oktober 2012

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Initially I thought it was a bit to much money. At a Tesla tech event, she talked to number of people, snuck up behind me and told me to get one if I wanted One! And after we drove one we were totally convinced. We both can't Wait! March?

Velo1 | 05. oktober 2012

My wife was sold when I "gave" her the reservation packet for Christmas. Since then this has gone from her new car, to our new car for local trips. My challenge now is persuading her on a few upgrades I want, such as 85 kWh battery versus 60 kWH, and we're debating colors and interiors. I keep telling her we can reach a compromise if she would only agree with me :)

DanielR | 05. oktober 2012

Show the wife current gas prices in CA. Rapidly approaching $5 per gallon this week.

J King | 05. oktober 2012

My wife is onboard. However, the car is not REASONABLE, in most normal senses of the word. She drives a Z4 which I bought as an anniversery present. She averages about 27 miles per hour. We are getting the S because we both think that eventually the US must become energy independent. We do not support the Nuclear approach France took. We are doing what we can to promote what we think has a chance of becoming a replacement technology. Doing good for the country while enjoying a fantastic car is a good thing. Same reason we have solar panels, we want to encourage the technology and make it cheaper for everyone. We want to stop sending money to people who hate us to buy gas.

David70 | 05. oktober 2012

My wife still isn't on board. Cost is the issue. We never would have spent over $40k on any ICE car.

That's why I had to defer. We're already retired and our portfolio hasn't been doing very well for the past 4 years. I'm hoping it'll improve in the next year or two.

mrspaghetti | 05. oktober 2012

@David70: What's your reservation #? Just curious.

David70 | 05. oktober 2012

tesla.m P #1649.

jhuang | 05. oktober 2012

Glad to hear that most of you were able to have your spouses' approval and support. It's still a sticker shock for us, but it's the right car for the right amount for the right reason.

dr_gko | 05. oktober 2012

My wife likes the car and thinks it looks good. She is concerned about the lack of AWD and the safety of the rear jumpseats for our kids. She let me make a reservation because that is the only way she could get me to shut up...

reitmanr | 05. oktober 2012

J King

I applaud you and your wife. Thank you. It was my wife who got me thinking about national security when we bought a Prius, installed solar, and now are getting the Model S. And we are getting an amazing car to boot! putting some neighbors to work ! What's not to like?

Christy | 05. oktober 2012

My husband is all over it. He can't wait. I may even let him drive it.

Jewsh | 05. oktober 2012

"My husband is all over it. He can't wait. I may even let him drive it."

Best comment yet. :-)

Hope you folks enjoy your new ride.

RobS | 05. oktober 2012

After our test drive, my wife convinced me to upgrade to the performance model. Go figure. I'm not complaining!

Brian H | 05. oktober 2012

Rob;
Is she an ex-biker babe? Or wannabe? ;)

Brian H | 05. oktober 2012

Heh. When I first saw the subject of this thread, I wondered if it referred to one of those yellow diamond or triangle back window warning signs. Alerting the drivers following that you were under the direction of a back (or passenger)-seat driver, and might do something erratic or irrational at any moment.
;)

ThorensP | 05. oktober 2012

I asked my wife to do the test drive. She's a much better driver than me and much more capable of experiencing the nuances of the car. She was sold from the moment we put down our deposit, but even more so after the test drive.

Schlermie | 05. oktober 2012

I'm budgeting $200k for this car, because as soon as she needs a new car, it's going to be payback time.

DeborahS | 05. oktober 2012

My husband has gone along with me on my desire to own a Tesla. I often get the " it is going to take forever to make your money in gas costs". Oh we'll, I fell in love with the model s March 2009.

P497. Pearl white, tan interior, 85 battery, air Suspension. Can't wait!

Brian H | 05. oktober 2012

Deborah;
As teslarumors.com demonstrates, you don't have to make back all the money; just the difference between the S' cost and that of your most probable alternative.

chrissam42 | 05. oktober 2012

My wife is not on board. She was not at all swayed by the Get Amped test drive ;) She is not a car person and basically wants the cheapest thing that runs and will get her from point A to B.

It's not just the cost (although that is a big deal; this is triple what we've ever spent on a car before), it's more the social implications of having an expensive car. We have been fortunate in life, so we can afford it. But we aren't "luxury car" people and we don't generally live in a way that would suggest to others that we have a lot of money. Owning a Tesla basically says "I make more money than you" to most of her friends (mine are more on the techie side so they think it's awesome).

But aside from the simple cost, she is particularly uncomfortable since she works for a non-profit in international aid, developing countries, and poverty issues. We just returned from a year and a half living in Cambodia, and this car is worth more than most of the people there will make in 25 years. It just makes her feel kind of gross. (I for some reason don't have such a strong reaction. ;) )

At the end of the day, I could make an executive decision (our savings are mostly from my salary) and go for it over her misgivings. But for now I am deferring. (I just got my "Time to build" email the other day, P6329!) She'll be getting a new job next summer, and so our new situation will determine whether it's the right thing to do or not.

mrspaghetti | 05. oktober 2012

@chrissam42: If her friends would judge her for the car she drives vs. what she does with her life, are they really her friends?

I'm sure she has a heart of gold - too bad that often comes with a lot of baggage in the form of baseless guilt.

Best of luck.

riceuguy | 05. oktober 2012

Mine thought it was a silly idea, but I made her come on the test drive. Although that didn't change her mind about the car itself, she saw my ear to ear grin for 2 solid hours after the test drive she can't imagine depriving me of that happiness! :-)

Jamon | 05. oktober 2012

+1 @chrissam42 "We just returned from a year and a half living in Cambodia, and this car is worth more than most of the people there will make in 25 years"

Thanks for sharing this perspective. As amazing and beautiful as this car is, it's good to remember that there are much more important and valuable things in this world. I admire your willingness to defer the order - and I hope that you both get the chance to enjoy the car in the future!

J King | 06. oktober 2012

@chrissam42 +1
Thanks for the perspective. I do believe that it is good for those who have resources to fund movement in technology that will facilitate everyone on earth living at the US level of comfort and convinence. If the US moves to electric vehicles, powered by Solar, there will be more Hydrocarbon available for the rest of the world to bootstrap themselves with. Advancing battery technology is a good thing for everyone. IMO, those with money should work to aide those without, and one way to do so is to fund technology advances that have the chance to improve the life of everyone.

chrissam42 | 06. oktober 2012

@tesla.mrspaghet "If her friends would judge her for the car she drives vs. what she does with her life, are they really her friends?"

True, if people are that petty we don't really want to waste our time on them. I don't think she honestly believes our friends would actually judge us. I think it's more fear of the initial reaction. Like one good friend of ours, when I told her I had a reservation, said, "Oh, wow, you must be loaded." She's not going to fundamentally change her opinion of us, but there may be a subtle readjustment of how they see you.

I think it all boils down to fear of the unknown. We've never bought something this expensive before, and it's a big step.

I believe that people will treat you based on how you live, and not what you own. After all, we're still going to use this fancy car to drive to the supermarket and go have a beer at the bar like everyone else :D

chrissam42 | 06. oktober 2012

Okay, we can go back to talking about our wives now!

Brian H | 06. oktober 2012

chris;
Response: "Not any more!"

Bennett R. | 06. oktober 2012

I can tell you that it was a much easier sell when I thought that the maintenance costs were going to be so much lower. Now, instead of contributing to the economic cost/benefit, it works in the wrong direction.

Larry Chanin | 06. oktober 2012

My most expensive car was a new PT Cruiser so from my perspective this is an insanely expensive car. So it helps to be insane when purchasing it. Shortly after I put down my $5,000 deposit Tesla invited me to visit the factory to get a ride. I still clearly remember asking my wife if she would like to fly across the country from Florida to California for a test ride. Her incredulous stare said it all, but she elaborated with, “Are you nuts?! You want to fly across cross country for a 2 minute ride?!!” Well, I might be nuts, but thinking fast I said, “But dear I thought we could turn it into a romantic get away to wine country.” Fortunately, my wife happens to have a weakness for California wine country and her response was something like, “Well why didn’t you say so I’ll take care of the reservations and we’re going to take a full week and we’re doing the Napa Valley Wine Train.”

When we got to the Fremont factory we were treated like royalty. The factory was decorated to the hilt and the style definitely was a hit for my wife to put it mildly. The whole experience was so cool and exciting that my wife starting to become infected with the same insanity bug that I was afflicted with. The rest of the week in wine country was the icing on the cake and I who previously hated visiting California had a great time especially on the wine train.

After that the insanity progressively got worse for both of us. I founded the Florida Tesla Motors Club, went from considering a 40 kWh battery to 60 to 85 kWh, from General Production to Signature, from Standard Signature to Performance Signature. All during that transition from insane to seriously insane my wife’s reaction was something like “good idea dear”.

One day while visiting friends, who also have a Model S reservation, they said they needed to fly out to California to get one of the first test drives before configuring their car. They asked us if we wanted to accompany them. We said sure and how about a week in wine county and a trip on the wine train? Sure! Off we went again! When we got to Fremont I got a call from Tesla informing me that my number came up on the Signature waiting list! So we got our own test drive. What a blast! This was the first of the test drivea before Tesla was compelled to put electronic governors on the cars. We flew around the test route at close to 100 mph like, well…like crazy people! By this time we were all rabid, foaming at the mouth crazy people.

So no, at this point my wife has absolutely no problem with me getting a fully optioned Model S. A day or so ago we received our delivery window from Tesla and she’s already planning the delivery party!! We frankly don’t know whether getting a Model S is a saving us any money. We just think of it as a contribution to a worthy cause. We’re saving the world and we’re gonna have a hellava time doing it. We’re not getting any younger you know and this ain’t no dress rehearsal mind as well go for it!

Larry

aa012a | 06. oktober 2012

Took her to the test drive... sat her on the back... she now misses the car more than me :)

archibaldcrane | 06. oktober 2012

It makes my new wife nervous, both in the cost aspect and the "you live in a modest house in a modest neighborhood but you drive a 60k car?" aspect...

...but she got sick of me talking about reserving one so she got me a reservation herself, which she gifted to me about 2 hours before we got married.

Going for our first test drive a week from Monday, curious to see how she reacts.

mrspaghetti | 06. oktober 2012

@archibald: I've never heard of anyone who was disappointed with a test drive :)

Oaktowner | 06. oktober 2012

My wife is very supportive, but I've been wavering and recent developments really have given me second thoughts. The 60KWh battery I've been pondering will essentially cost me $4K more than I thought ($2K for maintenance, $2K for the supercharger access I was counting on).

She still says "If you want it, get it." But the purchase has grown difficult to justify. We live in Northern California, where power is pretty expensive, and solar isn't a great option for us.

Where I once had a "have your cake and eat it too" attitude about the Model S (amazing car, no dependence on oil, and the "teslanomics" mean it's a bargain), I now have to admit that it won't be as much of a bargain as I'd hoped.

Still...I'm leaning toward making a reservation, but now need to figure out if I should just pony up the extra $8K for the 85Kwh battery

Brian H | 07. oktober 2012

Oaktowner;
With the 85, you're at home on the SC network. With the 60, you're a barely tolerated visitor.

mrspaghetti | 07. oktober 2012

@Oaktowner

As I've opined in other threads, if you can afford the 85kwh, it's a no-brainer.

psullivanassoc | 07. oktober 2012

I drive a 1999 Honda Accord which is the most expensive car I have ever owned. My wife has had 3 cars since I bought it. I told my wife about the Tesla last year and that I wanted to sign up for a Model S. She looked at the website and thought it was "interesting but really expensive". Before I sent the check we drove up to Newport Beach store. Once she saw the store and talked to staff she was at the point where "if you want to do this you can." She did remind me to never give her crap about buying shoes again! (she is a shoe junkie.) I sent in the $5k.

Then the beta cars came to Newport so up we go again. She started to get a bit more excited. Now I had a new problem. She really liked the Signature red color. She bought her first Tesla shirt. She starts saying "you should get that Signature red car color". Now my insanity meter starts going off. That is more than 3 times what I have ever spent on a car. OK, so I am in this deep. She wants Sig red (so do I) so I will upgrade to the Sig. How many pairs of shoes is this going to cost me? I guess this will be known as my mid life crisis.

Now I have created a monster. She is buying Tesla clothes to fit the grand babies. Now I am being told "if I am going to spend this much on a car it has to be able to haul grand kids around so it has to have the kids seats. That's the deal." Somehow it went back to if "I" am spending this much on a car. Go figure. What happened to the Honda guy who just wanted to sign up for a production model?

So now it's my turn. I went back to her last month and said; Look. I am in this deep. I am up to 90k plus on a car which for both of us is insane. So why get one of the most progressive, limited edition cars on the market and then cheap out at the very end and not get the Signature performance? Go big or go home! So now she is banking on it being too late to change the order. It wasn't so I upgraded again. We went back to Newport Beach to let her drive the car for the first time (performance model). Needless to say she was impressed. Now her story is since her commute is longer than mine she should drive the Tesla to save on gas. I hope my Honda has a few more years in it. :)

Pat

pbrulott | 07. oktober 2012

In the same boat, Oaktowner

My wife feel totally confortable in a 2006 Mazda 3 with 110,000 km. So when I "announced" to her I reserved the Model S, I received everything but a warm welcome.

Expecially since the Canadian pricing, maintenance, supercharger and soon to be announced connectivity package and storage options increased the price tremendously. This will likely be 12-15K more than anticipated... I'm reconsidering it myself now

However,

A couple of weeks later, we met with a neighbour at our cottage saying that she misses her husband that died at age 54 a year before. When she left the house, my wife told me, go buy your Tesla we've got one life to live. Decisions, decisions!

Larry Chanin | 07. oktober 2012

Pat,

"Now my insanity meter starts going off."

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around with these Teslas. ;-)

But I think sanity is greatly overrated.

Enjoy!

Larry

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