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SUPERCHARGER LOCATIONS (EXISTING/PLANNED) -- NORTHEAST US: PA NJ NY CT RI MA VT NH ME

SUPERCHARGER LOCATIONS (EXISTING/PLANNED) -- NORTHEAST US: PA NJ NY CT RI MA VT NH ME

My intention with this thread to is offer confirmed (evidence based) information on existing and new supercharger locations in the Northeast AS WELL AS TO offer encouragement to Tesla to remedy the dearth of SuperChargers in the region. This is a huge and relatively compact market for Tesla: the population of the Northeast is 56 million, 18% of the total USA. Yet, the population centers of Boston, Hartford, and Philadelphia are inadequately connected -- and links to Montreal and Toronto are completely missing.

Just 4 new superchargers will do this:

Sturbridge, MA (should be a no-brainer)
Edison, NJ (which is underway)
Albany, NY (who knows what is going on there)
Canandaigua, NY (midway between Albany and Toronto) (This would also serve Buffalo and Rochester)

High payoff for 4 new SuperChargers (one of which is underway, so really 3). How 'bout it, Tesla?

UPDATE: 07/17/2014: if you add the population of Quebec and Ontario, this area is home to 77 million people. But much of the area remains WAY under served. Grateful for Tesla Motors recent post that the Quebec to Toronto corrodor is scheduled for Superchargers but this needs to be connected to the 95 corridor. When complete, a potential market of 77 million people will have access.

UPDATE 04/13/2016: It's taken a long time BUT! a minimum coverage of the Northeast is finally in sight! Two SCs are currently under construction, Harrisburg PA and Southampton NY. The Harrisburg site is critical for connecting Pittsburgh to Philadelphia on the PA Turnpike. There are five -- 5!! -- other SCs under permit, two of which will solidify connections between Montreal and Quebec City to points south (like Albany, NYC, and Boston). The other three make things easier between Buffalo and Cleveland, the MASS Pike, and finally, the one way up in Rivière du Loup, QC, where my Grandfather happens to be buried (honest!). I have been very critical of lack of progress to date so it's important to give credit when due.

Last gap is the I-80 corridor in northern PA to connect Ohio and Pittsburgh to NYC and all points further to the east.

plusplusjames | 03. juni 2014

Sure is quiet in the Northeast... I did hear from the Tesla team In Eastern LI 2 weeks ago. Apparently a number of HPWCs are envisioned in and around Southampton. Possibly one behind the Southampton Inn on Hill Street. Details to follow.

tes-s | 03. juni 2014

Southampton? Great, another supercharger for a location which is already round-trip enabled with an existing supercharger.

But a good location for visibility to a lot of rich people.

Perhaps an indication that the sales and marketing has wrestled the company away from the engineers?

J.T. | 03. juni 2014

@tes-s ++ said HPWC not Superchargers.

tes-s | 03. juni 2014

If I were the owner or manager of the Southampton Inn I would put in 4 HPWC and expect to recover the investment easily in one season.

plusplusjames | 04. juni 2014

@Eknight47: Who did you appeal to at Sugarbush? I can pass the name along to Ciaran at Tesla for follow-up.

Ciaran has already reached out to Gerry Tschinkel (gtschinkel@huntermtn.com) at Hunter to push a possible HPWC. If any others here ski at Hunter, please drop Gerry a note to let him know there is deman.

Off season is a great time to push for this. We will be thankful come December.

L8MDL | 04. juni 2014
genedr @ny-us | 24. juni 2014

Upstate/Central New York.....needs a supercharger. Binghamton would open the pathway to Syracuse, Ithaca, Rochester. Please!!

jordanrichard | 24. juni 2014

Though I created a seperate thread about this, there is a SC under construction in Sagamore MA. It is right where RT3 and 6 meet up, essentially at the foot of the Sagamore bridge.

plusplusjames | 01. juli 2014
tes-s | 01. juli 2014

Paramus and Edison are nice, and so is Sagamore. The more the better.

But none enable major routes.

If you draw a line from Cleveland to NY to Boston, everything north and east is a supercharger wasteland, with the exception of Albany.

I guess they are trying to keep demand down until they catch up with production.

plusplusjames | 01. juli 2014

@tes-s: North and West, you mean. North Country and NW NY and PA. Lots of nice roads up there to drive our cars in. Could even connect Canada, too. Looks like it ain't happening this summer.

Hope things improve in time for ski season...

Sin_Gas | 01. juli 2014

Hello

"Though I created a seperate thread about this, there is a SC under construction in Sagamore MA. It is right where RT3 and 6 meet up, essentially at the foot of the Sagamore bridge."

I took a drive last Friday thru Sagamore from Cape Cod to Waterville Valley, NH. Stopped in Sagamore at the Park and Ride, the visitor center, Dunkies, Friendlies, Shell, Mikey D's, and the Pink Coffee Shop, etc. Some thought they heard of it, but had no info. The ground has not been broken as far as I can tell. I will cruze by once a month until I see something going on and report back. Glad to see it, however, Southern New Hampshire is a much more pressing need for me. Just nothing up there. I may have to put in solar and roll my own. Thats an expensive option ($30K?)to get free electricity.

Sin Gas

Plugged In | 01. juli 2014

I've posted before... but I am still anxiously awaiting the ability to get to Portland, ME and further into the ME wilderness. Everyone has mentioned Sturbridge and I'll throw my hat into that ring (again). I would also like one near the jct of 495 and 95 near the NH border. And if I went to Montreal, something near Plattsburgh would work perfectly now that Albany is live.

Thank you!

plusplusjames | 01. juli 2014

I have the impression that the Northeast back country is NOT a priority right now. At least the beaches and the shores are covered.

kenj | 01. juli 2014

The Syracuse SC is on the 2014 list -- I hope it appears in time for ..... college drop off.

The middle child going to one of the schools in the area so a charger in Syracuse would work (at least for me). Otherwise it is off to a RV park with no dual charging.

Red Sage ca us | 01. juli 2014

There are twice as many Superchargers under construction today than there were in existence worldwide a year ago. 114 have been built worldwide since July 1, 2013. I am impressed.

US SUPERCHARGERS
June 26, 2013 -- 11
June 21, 2014 -- 98

ericallyn | 02. juli 2014

Gene - you are right - Binghamton is needed badly! And not just for those who want to get to beautiful upstate NY....also for those of us who live in beautiful upstate NY and need to go South .

tes-s | 02. juli 2014

Upstate New York. Vermont. New Hampshire. Maine.

plusplusjames | 02. juli 2014

The next two for the Northeast should be Plattsburgh, NY and Canandaigua, NY (or somewhere thereabouts). That would open up huge swathes of North Country and connect Montreal, Toronto, Buffalo, and Rochester to NYC and Boston. That's a lot of territory for 2 superchargers.

Next should be White River Junction, VT which would solidify Montreal-Boston (and open up VT and NH) and Harrisburg, PA to connect Pittsburgh to Philly, NYC, and points North.

tes-s | 02. juli 2014

Concord NH, Portsmouth NH, Bangor ME, Burlington VT, ...

tes-s | 02. juli 2014

...and let's not forget Sturbridge/Auburn.

plusplusjames | 17. juli 2014

77 million people. I saw some other posts totaling populations, so beat this.

If the Chinese enter this topic, of course, I'm screwed. But this is the densest part of NA and should be a no brainer to wire up. Not enough has been happening here.

Sin_Gas | 17. juli 2014

I posted this on the General Section, but it works here as well. Thought I would post it here also:

I just did an amazing calculation. The question is how many superchargers are required to cover the US? I thought it was thousands.

Lets say the country is 3000 miles by 1500 miles, just for argument. If there is a SC every 150 miles, that is 20 x 10, if you put them on a grid, every 150 miles. Now of course you would put them on the main roads, but its amazing that 200 SC's would pretty much cover the US. We are half way there already.

This is quite do-able. Elon will do it. Brilliant!

Sin Gas

bissocurt | 08. august 2014

I bought this car for cruising to the many mountain, lake and ocean destinations in New England. I recently drove from Lower Fairfield County, CT to Okemo Mt. Resort in Ludlow, VT. By the time I reached Springfield, MA, about halfway to my destination, I had about 180 miles of battery left but once in northern MA and throughout the hills/mtns of Vermont my battery life changed so significantly that I was driving 45mph in order to arrived at my destination with 6 miles of battery life left! Whew, talk about sweat and anxiety! How disappointed I was to have invested in this machine, that I had to drive 45 mph through long stretches of open highway in MA and VT in order to reach my 50 AMP plug in my garage!

DTsea | 08. august 2014

Sin gas, that's a little low. Most are about 120 miles apart to account for weather, speed, elevation..... but that just means 250 or so.

plus 10 or 15 for canada

tes-s | 08. august 2014

"Coming Soon" map seems to show a charger around Windsor Locks north of Hartford, and 2014 map seems to show a charger around Springfield (perhaps near the I-90 and I-91 intersection?).

Will make the Ludlow trip more doable - particularly in the winter when you might want to have the heat on.

I am concerned about supercharger overcrowding on Friday night and Sunday night, particularly when the MX is out. But we can cross that charger when we get there.

WillEric | 08. august 2014

Bissocurt,

You would definitely benefit from a Western MA or southern VT supercharger. But couldn't you have changed your route somewhat and charged up at the Milford, CT supercharger? Especially if you have an 85, Milford, CT to Ludlow, VT is about 180 miles, well within range, especially if you charge to 100%.

Grinnin'.VA | 09. august 2014

@Sin_Gas | JULY 17, 2014

"I just did an amazing calculation. The question is how many superchargers are required to cover the US? I thought it was thousands."

"Lets say the country is 3000 miles by 1500 miles, just for argument. If there is a SC every 150 miles, that is 20 x 10, if you put them on a grid, every 150 miles. ... 200 SC's would pretty much cover the US. We are half way there already."

Works out splendidly when we get around reconfiguring the roads to follow this SC grid.

Ron :)

MagiKool | 09. august 2014

They should have made the the HPWCs at King of Prussia Plaza Superchagers because entrances/exits for the Pennsylvania Turnpike (70/270), I 476 and major state routes 422 & 202 are within a few miles.

The new Tesala store/service center in Devon has HPWCs, they should have negotiated with the landlord to install solar panels and then installed Superchargers instead of HPWCs.

plusplusjames | 05. november 2014

@MagiKool: Agreed -- would have been a great site for superchargers.

When I started this thread, I asked for the following to fill urgently needed gaps:

Sturbridge, MA (should be a no-brainer)
Edison, NJ (which is underway)
Albany, NY (who knows what is going on there)
Canandaigua, NY (midway between Albany and Toronto) (This would also serve Buffalo and Rochester)

The score 9 months later:

Sturbridge: Auburn, MA is under construction.
Edison: Operational! I've charged there.
Albany: Operational!
Canandaigua: Permit in nearby Clarence.

There are also new Superchargers in Greenwich, CT, East Greenwich, RI, Sagamore, MA, Hamilton, NJ, and Cranberry, PA. Also construction in Farmington, CT. And another permit in Springfield, MA.

Thank you Tesla!!!

So the I-95 corridor has great existing service from Philadelphia to Providence with expansion eminent to Boston and Hartford (Not sure if anyone really wants to go to Hartford but I digress).

The remaining work to open up the region would be along the I-90 corridor Toronto/Buffalo to Boston, I-80 Erie/Pittsburgh to NYC, I-87 Montreal to NYC, and I-89 Montreal to Boston. Portland and Bangor, ME would extend I-95 to almost the maritime provinces.

danm | 29. november 2014

I love my Tesla to death but I am bummed I have to rent a car to make the trip from Massachusetts to Cleveland for the holidays. No problem getting to Albany but then SOL heading West on 90. This taking over the universe thing requires patience. ):

jordanrichard | 29. november 2014

West Hartford CT, should be live soon. The transformer has arrived and is in place. There is some clean up that needs to be done. I am guessing it will be done/live in 2 weeks.

Auburn MA, should also be live real soon. Everything is done and buttoned up. It's just needs to be powered up/tested.

Brattleboro VT is actually further ahead than anyone was expecting. The stalls uprights are already in place.

Don't know about West Springfield yet, but once built/up and running, that should help anyone traveling Westbound on the MA pike. It may allow one to charge up early and therefore be able to get further beyond Albany.

bonaire | 29. november 2014

Plusplusjames, Clarence and canandaigua are about 75 miles apart. Another one needed between rochester and syracuse somewhere, or maybe 30 miles east of syracuse. I doubt you can get from Albany to Clarence on a range charge, but maybe. 275 miles.

Ruby110 | 29. november 2014

@Danm, It's out of the way but you can do it. We traveled from Marshfield, MA to central Minnesota. We went nearby Cleveland.

mromanow | 29. november 2014

I am in Clarence, NY and the town board approved Tesla's request to place a supercharger on Transit Road just North of NY Thruway exit 49. The meeting was 11/5 & the Tesla rep who was there said they were trying to complete construction by year end.

Plugged In | 29. november 2014

For my needs what is still missing are as follows:

Harrisburg or Carlisle, PA
Binghamton and another charger following 17/86 or 90.
Any two SC's along I80 in PA
Plattsburgh, NY
White River Jct. VT
Portsmouth, NH
And somewhere further into ME.

Brian H | 29. november 2014

You need Binghamton or SLT.

genedr @ny-us | 29. november 2014

Binghamton!
We've made some noise and submitted two locations in Binghanton, and TM states they are investigating.
The Spot diner and ScottTech Industry (already has a HPWC for Tesla and others to use ) are good spots.

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/38545-Help-Get-A-Superchar...

bjacobowitz | 03. desember 2014

Binghamton, NY is an ideal location for those driving from NJ, NYC, the NYC suburbs (Westchester, Rockland), especially when visiting the upstate NY colleges.

WillEric | 03. desember 2014

And for those planning trips to Quebec, it looks like Montreal and Drummondville SCs are under construction, according to supercharge.info

jordanrichard | 03. desember 2014

My wife and I would like to return to Montreal, but we need the dots connected between CT and there.

WillEric | 03. desember 2014

@jordanrichard,

Later this month, I am taking the family from NYC to Quebec, and I think this is very doable.

Not sure where you are in CT, but I'm assuming that you can make it from your home to the Albany supercharger on a full charge. From Albany, it's about 215 miles to Montreal. Assuming you have an 85, this is doable, even in cold weather provided that you drive conservatively and keep the heat to a minimum.

If you have a 60, that is definitely trickier. You'll need to use J1772 and 14-50s through plugshare for that.

Mystery Lab | 03. desember 2014

So ... does this mean that I can now go from Toronto, through Buffalo, to New York with Superchargers?

If not, where is the gap?

BrassGuy | 03. desember 2014

It looks like you still need at least Utica. There's a thread on TMC.

plusplusjames | 03. desember 2014

Currently, the gap is between Toronto and Albany. There is construction in Clarence, NY currently, but it would still be 268 miles from there to the supercharger in Albany.

I guess you could do it if you drove 45 MPH on the NY State Thruway (I-90) with no heat but good luck with that.

Brian H | 03. desember 2014

Or take a shortcut across the lake. ;p

PV_Dave @US-PA | 04. desember 2014

@Brian H: I'm still not seeing the Model S's amphibious option on the configuration pages. I don't think it's been released from R & D yet.

ajaymalhotra_1 | 04. desember 2014

I visited the W.Hartford SC location today (Dec 4th, 2014). They are almost done and the construction crew on site told me it will lit up this evening/tonight. Opens up the 84 Corridor between NYC and Boston :)

JonathanL | 04. desember 2014

Great news about West Hartford. No need to schlep over to 15/95 for my trips to the western burbs of Boston. Auburn would be even better for me on the way up. Now I need to locate the Pepe's Pizza in West Hartford so we have something to eat while we charge.

ajaymalhotra_1 | 04. desember 2014

@Jonathan - In W.Hartford, On the other side of by the SC location is Red Robin. In the same complex, you will find Olive Garden, Chipotle, Starbucks and a Trader Joe's. Not to mention, The West Farms Mall is across the street and has a PF Chang and probably other eateries.

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