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Where to hang your dry cleaning? Or a suit coat?

Where to hang your dry cleaning? Or a suit coat?

I get that the design theme in the car is simplicity, but for most of us this car will be a daily driver. I've asked a few different product specialists this question and they had no answer. There are no handles on the ceiling and there is no clip to hold a coat or dry cleaning. Most luxury cars have a clip that folds up into the ceiling when not in use. That way it's out of sight and it would fit the design theme of the Model S. To not have this in a luxury car is befuddling. Did they overlook this little-used feature or do they expect I will have someone else get my dry cleaning for me? Where to hang my coat when wearing a suit? A few have suggested to lay the dry cleaning down in the trunk but because of the plastic bags they will slide around and get wrinkled by the time I get home. 1 product specialist in the store showed me a gap where the roof liner meets the window that you could slide a hanger into. Well, that doesn't work if you have 10 shirts you are transporting.

Has anyone else looked into this or are there planned changes coming? I've still got about 7 or 8 months to wait for delivery so I'm hoping this will be addressed by then.

TikiMan | 17. november 2012

How about the frunk? It's fairly large, and you could hook your clothing from the rear net (thus it would be flat, and wouldn't move around much, or get wrinkled). Or, you could just lay it in the rear hatchback (a suit jacket would lay complete flat in the back no problem).

Either way, it's much safer not having your clothing blocking your side-rear view, and clothing is a hell of a lot cheaper than having to fix your crashed Model S.

dborn @nsw.au | 17. november 2012

@TikiMan = I tend to agree with you regarding hanging things, BUT, for those of us a bit physically challenged (or simply getting older and stiffer, including passengers), grab handles on the roof over the doors would seem to be essential. I use these quite regularly on my present car. Even cheap daily drivers gave them. Tesla really does need to do a deep rethink of the interior from many aspects, most of which have been covered in other threads, so i won't repeat them here. Grab handles most definitely should be part of the first interior revision.

noel.smyth | 17. november 2012

Yea hard to believe tat feature left out, it's not even a luxury car feature as my 03 base accord has it. I'm thinking ill hang them on the top of the window and raise it up to top. At least when not raining.

JZ13 | 17. november 2012

@TikiMan - I hang my dry cleaning and coats on the driver's side so there is no obstruction. Lying the clothes in the trunk would wrinkle them even under a net - certainly a suit coat would wrinkle.

Noel - that's a good idea but too bad we would have to resort to that. Plus it would look stupid driving down the road. Also, it still doesn't solve the suit coat problem. (I know, no one in Silicon Valley wears a suit - but most of their customer base is not in Silicon Valley.) Given the demographic of a $100k car buyer, many will be wearing business suits.

TikiMan | 17. november 2012

dborn,

Yes, I can see your point. I would imagin it will be something that will be added later in production. There are a variety of small things that the current Model S could use still, however, I am chalking it up to being a early adapter (small price to pay for everything else this car can do that no one else's can).

Brian H | 18. november 2012

Nah, they're just anti-religious, so they don't like Jesus handles!
>:(

Timo | 18. november 2012

Many people find Jesus in fast cars ;-)

STEVEZ | 18. november 2012

Some owners have reported hanging dry cleaning from the pano roof crossbar cover. I haven't tried that yet.

You misunderstood the frunk suggestion: there's a vertical net separating the main part from a smaller aft bay. If you hang your suit coat from the top of the netting it will perhaps lie flat in the forward part of the frunk and not slide around much. Seems a little iffy to me but, again, I haven't tried it.

The lack of grab handles above the side windows is clearly a miss on Tesl's part.

stevenmaifert | 18. november 2012

Although it's been debated here ad nauseous, it does appear the designers of Model S put form over function. That would explain the lack of rear seat hooks for dry cleaning, Jesus handles, console storage, lighted sun visor vanity mirrors, truly usable front seat cup holders and arm rest, built in rear seat arm rests and cup holders, forward quadrant charge port and a host of other convenience features commonly found in premium vehicles in this class. But, it is what it is. The automotive press doesn't seem to be concerned as they award Model S their car of the year. Some early adopters grumble, but accept it because the WOW factor in the exterior design, performance and gee whiz electronics more than make up for it. The beat goes on.

jerry3 | 18. november 2012

steven,

1. The designers were European and European designers always design more spartan cars.

2. A number of the items you mentioned lower the safety rating. Safety rating was right up there with performance as being important in the design.

3. Some of the items were just not do-able given the time and budgetary constraints.

Timo | 18. november 2012

Jerry3, for your point 1 good example is those cupholders. I'm pretty sure that car initially didn't have any and in their place were small hidden storages and someone native US told the designers that "we need cupholders" that is why they are in so odd place.

When the first thread about cupholders appeared here I thought it was a joke, but no you Americans seem to take cupholders seriously. I would be happy with no cupholders and small storage space in their place for small stuff. In fact I would like to see that as option (small storage in place of cupholders) in European models.

jerry3 | 18. november 2012

Timo,

I don't doubt you're correct in your assessment, although I understand that the placement of cupholders can affect the safety ratings.

jerry3 | 18. november 2012

Timo,

Unlike Europeans, North American folks tend to live in their cars. Some of this has to do with the distances traveled. 800 miles in North America isn't all that far. In Europe that distance gets you into another country (most of the time).

Another reason is the differences in driver training. In North America it's just about zero. More-or-less if you know where the steering wheel, brake pedal, and accelerator pedal is and in addition can distinguish light from dark, you're qualified to get a license.

And a third is that public transit hasn't been ruined in Europe the way it has in North America.

DouglasR | 18. november 2012

jerry3,

I believe an American's right to drive without training is guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.

jerry3 | 18. november 2012

DouglasR,

LOL

TikiMan | 18. november 2012

It's kind of funny, however, a friend of mine is buying the new Lamborghini Aventador, and his friends keep asking him if it has cup holders, etc. His responce... "What? Are you stupid, why would Lamborgini do that?"

bdukov | 27. september 2013

Simple solution for coat hook to use for dry cleaning etc:
I know this may sound odd for having spent $110K on a car, and then having to "jimmy-rig" a solution to the absent coat hooks, but here it is:
It can be easily removed when there is a rear seat passenger, and it costs 25¢ (4 for 99¢ at the "99 cent store") The "over the door" hook, as it is called, slots into the back of the middle rear seat belt mechanism.
Photos at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/21999-Simple-solution-for-...

JZ13 | 28. september 2013

@bdukov - Thanks for posting. I've had my car for 6 months and I'm still amazed that this little feature hasn't been installed by now. I have a pano roof and I've been hanging my dry cleaning in the corner of the metal bar that runs sideways across the roof of the car. It's not perfect but tends to work even for multiple hangers. Still nowhere to hang a suit coat so I've been laying that on the rear seat.

olanmills | 29. september 2013

This is why no one should ever wear suits.

bradslee | 29. september 2013

Don't you guys know that MS is designed in California where no engineers wear suits?

Pricee2 | 29. september 2013

@bdukov- Thanks for the tip. Works better than just laying clothes on the seat or the trunk floor. Keeps them from sliding around.

sweet_achie17 | 13. september 2015

Thanks for the comments, It is really helpful.

Davidb0229 | 13. september 2015

Yeah, one of the things I will miss about my current car once my Model S arrives is the ability to install a clothes rack across the back seat when traveling for a vacation. We have an adjustable rack (ours happen to come from Pep Boys but they are available lots of places) that hangs from the handles over the rear doors. The rack will hold all of our hanging clothes for a week's vacation very nicely -- shirts, dresses, jackets, suits if needed, etc.
I know there are coat hooks for the Tesla from EVannex but I do not think they would hold the weight of our rack with a week's clothes. So we will have to go to Plan B...
But maybe tesla will have coat hooks and so on in the next generation of cars, Model X or Model S or even Model 3.

Greenee | 13. september 2015

Hmm, share plan b, please. Laying my clothes in the back results in wrinkles. Thanks for sharing.

k.edmondson222 | 13. september 2015

I got the hooks off of EVannex. I wouldn't trust them with a heavy load though. The hooks might hold the weight but I don't believe the headliner will hold the weight and I'd hate to find out if I'm right by having my headliner hanging down... so I dont plan to use them for much more than a jacket or something light.

Roamer@AZ USA | 14. september 2015

I have a Pano so I use the EVAnnex hooks. They work great and can be moved around for different needs.

When I pick up dry cleaning I usually just lay it on the rear parcel shelf. Nice clean out of the way place and I have not experienced a problem with it sliding around.

grantwatson | 14. september 2015

@JZ13: With all due respect, if a person in your "demographic" can't lay his suit out flat without it wrinkling, I'd suggest buying a better suit. I often commute to work on my motorcycle with my suit folded/rolled in the small top case. I put my suit on at the office and it looks like I just walked out of the tailor's shop. A good wool suit will not wrinkle without some serious squishing.

As for where to put your suit jacket when you're not wearing it, how about draping it over the back of the driver's seat?

Davidb0229 | 14. september 2015

Here is link to the EVAnnex coat hooks.
http://evannex.com/products/hookup-coat-hooks-set-of-two

Note that the cars made since May 2015 require modifying the headliner slightly to accommodate the clips.

rjt65 | 14. september 2015

Another happy Evannex coat hangar customer! (also wheel bands, brake Caliper covers off of their aftermarket site).

Dwdnjck@ca | 14. september 2015

All my clothes are wash and wear.

jordanrichard | 14. september 2015

I have the Pano roof have had no problem hanging clothes from the existing edge of the headliner. Now granted I am not trying to hang a heavy overcoat, but have had no problems with a sport coat.

P85marin | 14. september 2015

For those who have the rear jumpseats, the perfect place for me to stick dry cleaning on a hanger is the space between the release handle and back seat. With the seats in upright position, the handle is located midway between the 2 seats towards the top. Just hook your hanger on that piece and all is good. Of course this is only true if the kids are not riding back there :)

Nkolsen | 31. januar 2016

Yesterday, I picked up my dry cleaning and as in the past hung it on the lip of my pano roof cross beam. Bad idea, as I didn't exit the parking lot before the beam failed and was separated from the roof. While it seemed simple to reattach, I broke one of the plastic tabs and now the cross beam sits in the garage... In the same shelf where I put the failed trim on my 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The Jeep trim failed at 290,000 mi, and I was able to fix with a couple of screws from the local hardware store. I am not sure where I can locate the plastic tabs to fix the Tesla. Still do not know what to do with the laundry. The suggestion to use the hooks from evannex does not appear to be a solution as they are limited to a 4lb load. Got rid of the jeep so can't use it to pick up my laundry. The lack of the hook is a real bummer for someone who works and needs to pick up laundry every week.

rxlawdude | 31. januar 2016

Laying it down across the seat seems like a simple and logical solution, no? ;-)

TaoJones | 31. januar 2016

A 4-lb load for the hooks? Glad I didn't know that.

I traveled all over the place this past year with about a dozen shirts, a suit jacket, a few pairs of khakis, and a lined jacket hanging from those EVAnnex hooks and all was well. Way more than 4 pounds.

The limiting factor was how many hangers would fit on the hooks, which was a function of the duration of the road trips.

So with the load limit above, I wouldn't recommend doing what I did, but do know that it is possible, with no adverse effects observed.

rxlawdude | 31. januar 2016

@Tao, eveannex very clearly warns that excess weight will cause the headliner to separate. Consider yourself very lucky.

When I saw the extreme limits of the hooks, I decided to pass. Too much risk someone would hang too heavy a load sometime down the road.

TaoJones | 31. januar 2016

Luck or common sense - either way, it worked with no adverse effects.

It didn't occur to me to position the hooks in a weaker area to encourage failure, for example in the middle of one of the channels or halfway across the rear seats (which would also block the view from the rvm).

I chose to position the hooks adjacent in the corner nearest the rear of the door. One effect of this is that the clothes rested at least in part against the rear seatback. Another benefit is that it's easy to remove the clothes when a destination is reached.

No headliner separation of any kind after months of travel.

Probably because 4 pounds per hook means 8 pounds (2 hooks) and I'd be surprised if the shirts, khakis, and 2 jackets weighed all that much much more than that. I'm based in California; long-sleeved flannel shirts these ain't.

Great product. Better than if Tesla wasted the time to include these, since their positioning would be arbitrary.

rxlawdude | 31. januar 2016

I'd rather have factory hooks than rely on aftermarket devices that just happen to exploit a channel between two pieces that is not designed nor intended for handling ANY weight.

But that's just me. :-)