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Where would you like to see Tesla set up Super Chargers?

Where would you like to see Tesla set up Super Chargers?

I have a couple long drives I undertake and came up with a list that would be convenient for me. Somehow I think Tesla will take a wider array of people into account :)

Here is where I would like to see them (for my personal convenience of course :) )
North Bay, ON
Barrie, ON
Stratford, ON
Niagara, Falls, ON
Erie, PA
Morgantown, WV
Beckley, WV
Charlotte or Statesville, NC

I actually anticipate Tesla will concentrate their super chargers in/near their hottest U.S. markets (at least initially), but I can dream about them being in more out of the way places.

Where would they suit you best?

gregv64 | 03. januar 2013

Again, superchargers are not for within urban areas. You can easily drive all around the bay area without recharging. Superchargers will always be placed between cities. You might end up with one between SF and Sacramento in the long run, but not really a priority since you can easily reach the Folsom charger in a single charge. As far as I'm concerned, the Gilroy one at 35 miles from me is too close to be of any use. On my outbound journey I can make it to the next charger without stopping, and when returning home I'm unlikely to need a boost to make it home.

TheAustin | 03. januar 2013

Josh, why midway between NYC & the Hamptons? It's only a 90-mile or so trip...You can make it from the city to the Hamptons and back on a single charge.

GDH | 03. januar 2013

Since I am getting the 40kwh battery I'd like to see charging stations every 90 miles are so, up and down I-5 in Oregon =)...and have it be free.

TheAustin | 03. januar 2013

I think we need a couple around the Albany area...One south of Albany, and another north, along 87/NY State Througway...The route from NYC to Albany is important, as is the route further north to Montreal.

DouglasR | 03. januar 2013

@GDH,

Um . . . While you're at it, you should also ask for the 40 kWh battery to support supercharging.

MB3 | 03. januar 2013

GDH. Hope you know that 40 kwh battery can't use sc stations.

Brian H | 04. januar 2013

DTsea +1

The "long-range plan" thru 2015 comprises about 200 SC stations, using 150-mile sep. A long step for 60s, but 60s are not actually meant for long-distance. 85s can get up to about 75% charge in ½hr, as intended. Jamming the system with 60s trying to squeeze in every last Watt is not on.

frisbin | 04. januar 2013

Near Augusta Georgia along I-20 is needed. This location is about 150miles from Atlanta GA, and will provide needed service for all traveling east/west on this side of ATL.

drp | 04. januar 2013

Chicago to Detroit is in my mind as well with one added in Lansing and Flint Michigan. Gotta' let the Motor City see what they should have. I75 to Florida is a great idea and up through Mackinaw too.I wonder if the islands that do not have cars would like EV's? Greener than the horse and carriage, I think. I'd love the LA-NYNY route too with a guarantee I can make it over the mountains and speed once in a while to enjoy that addictive acceleration, they'd have to be closer than 150, unless we can be OK with staying longer. If I had a gas station I would definitely install at least a highest power charger, even if its Chargepoint. A no brainer.

jackhub | 04. januar 2013

Someplace between Louisville, KY and Memphis, Tn. between Louisville KY and Atlanta, GA. and someplace between Louisville and Birmingham, AL. Nashville on I65?

rterry | 04. januar 2013

every 100 miles or so and every major interstate...

edavis008 | 04. januar 2013

Texas triangle: Houston to Fort Worth = 270 miles; San Antonio to Dallas = 270 miles. Too far for an 85k at 70 mph!!

Brian H | 04. januar 2013

Much of the road damage could be prevented by integrating tire recyling and pavement repair and road-building. Chopped tires in the asphalt mix greatly increases durability and traction.

bsimoes | 05. januar 2013

Life does not stop at NYC. The ski crowd will need to drive north, and it would be nice to connect from NY to Canada. If the nearest service station is going to be 200 miles away, I'd like a little help with SC stations to get there!

TheAustin | 05. januar 2013

bsimoes, exactly...And not everyone takes 95 to head North. They need to get at least two on 87/New York State Throughway, to get to Albany, and then beyond to Montreal.

pbrulott | 05. januar 2013

+1 rterry

every 80-130 miles on every interstate/Canadian Highway

Personal interest:

I'd particularly like Montréal to Québec City, somewhere in between on the 40 and 20 HW. I think this one is a must. Nice to have for me: One going up north on the 15th towards Mont-Tremblant. And maybe 2 stations in between Toronto and Montréal on the 20/401 HW.

brooklynrab | 05. januar 2013

Lets put wish list dreaming aside for a second. Has Tesla (or one of its fans) published on the web some sort of tesla population analysis (we can take it from their plans for service center locations) in order to try to figure out which routes Tesla would be most likely to hit over the next two years, how many charging stations they'll need, and how much they cost per station? My gut is that if you follow their philosophy to have a service center within a reasonable reach of 90% of the Model S sales, you can radiate out from those locations onto popular road routes to see how many chargers we "need" and what the total budgeted cost should be. A rough gut feel is that you are talking a minimum of 50-100 supercharging stations to make a difference. How much do they cost per station? Any chances of getting some government money to help build them?

Carefree | 05. januar 2013

I spent some time yesterday looking at a North American Map and asking myself where SCs would be needed to allow long distance travel for most people. I came to realize that this is an almost insurmountable task for Tesla. I do not think that we can realistically expect Tesla to have SCs for everyone or even most people, esp. if you live away from some of the major population spots. Look at an interstate map and you will understand my concerns. Even 150 SCs spread across the country hardly make a dent.

Driving the Model S will be limited for quite some time to around town and charging at places like Campgrounds and public stations - all this means slow going.

ylyubarsky | 05. januar 2013

Yes and No. If Tesla build stations near their customers it won't work and I will tell you why. 2 examples: 1. If you have a charger at home, you don't need a SC station at least 100 miles around your house. 2. At the same time another Tesla owner is passing by your place going from one city to another needs to get some juice but because of your location can't get it. Sounds unfair, unless you propose something else. My first idea that some people liked and some didn't remains the same 75-100 miles a part for each SC station on all major highways. This is the ideal scenario but we can start from 150 miles and then add one station in between when more money made by Tesla or government will give a few bucks to SC station development. Environment is still on the government table. Instead of wasting money on military purposes, they can spare a few dollars on SC stations.

rbgil770 | 05. januar 2013

North end of the NJ Turnpike, AND Warwick RI off I95, so we can easily do MD / WDC to Cape Cod or Boston. This trip may be possible right now with the Delaware and Connecticut locations but adding these two more would make it a stress-free trip. Here's hoping they get a few more in this East Coast corridor before late spring or this summer.

P8493
60kWh

archibaldcrane | 05. januar 2013

Elon Musk on twitter:

Nice story about a Model S coast to coast road trip. By end of year, it will be Superchargers all the way! http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1081387_tesla-model-s-owner-drives-c...

So that's extremely promising - that means there will be sufficient superchargers even along very low population areas (through West Texas/New Mexico? Nebraska/Utah? Idaho/Montana/Dakotas?) who knows, but he says there will be a completed supercharger path coast to coast by the end of the year - how exciting!

brooklynrab | 05. januar 2013

Carefree, I see what you are saying if we wanted to cover the entire US. My feeling is that most of us will continue to have an ICE car for a true coast-to-coast journey or a deep sojourn into the heartland. We should instead focus on the doable, covering several major routes for a 300-400 mile radius of the top 10 tesla markets, with a charger per hundred miles. If one figures that there are three core routes one would seek to cover from each of those 10 markets, that means 30 routes to cover, multiplied by 3-4 charging stations a route (depending upon your projected travel radius) and we get to 90-120 supercharger stations. That might be doable, especially since several of those markets are likely to overlap (e.g., the northeast corridor). Maybe I'm being naiive (and jaded, as I live in the congested Northeast), but I guess it depends upon unit cost and government and other subsidies, as well as Elon's cash flow, which is likely to be very constrained for the next year or so (realistically, not optimistically speaking).

Josh | 05. januar 2013

@TheAustin - is 120 miles from Greenwich to EH - which is tough to do roadtrip on a single charge.... And unless you install a higher power outlet out east in your home (or - for all the summer renters who can't choose to install) you have to charge on 110 which takes the car out of action while you're out there or you have to go to a chargepoint station and are not many and take a long time too.

Not really a location for first high impact supercharger rollout but definitely a nice to have down the road - especially as volume of cars ramp up....

tcunning | 05. januar 2013

I wish they focused less on driving coast to coast and more on connecting major cities. I think it is impractical to drive from coast to coast as having to stop for 60 minutes every 3-4 hours is too much time wasted. However, allowing people to go between major cities where only one 30 minute stop is required seems very doable and particle. This is what they are doing in California. Plus between major cities there is often less infrastructure more rural aleas so have a charging station accessible would make more sense. Although, it doesn't make as nice of a marketing message.

Brian H | 06. januar 2013

Some misconceptions.
TM is not "cash-constrained" in setting up SCs; it has hardware and crews sitting around awaiting approvals! And SolarCity will be running the "power-out, power-in" business, so electricity costs don't figure into it. Next, the spacing is optimized for 85s making it between overnight stops, where they would use standard charging. Anything else is individuals making use of the system for other purposes: not TM's concern or priority.

Expect the 150 mile spacing to stick. About 200 stations (by end 2015?) can make most major routes traversable with that. Will there be more, later? Open question, I think.

davewhite50 | 06. januar 2013

I'm with jomo25, Let me get out of California. (to Albuquerque)

Also Barstow to Vegas is a long haul, need one in Baker or Primm.

Captain_Zap | 06. januar 2013

@davewhite50

Have you checked to see if any of the casinos in Primm have chargers? It seems as if they would be very motivated to provide a charging stop for Tesla owners.

I hear that there are Tesla chargers at The Venetian in Las Vegas.

Brian H | 06. januar 2013

Yes, SCs on the road to Vegas are a must. Free charging so you can still afford to get home after your visit to the tables. (Fill your pockets with pretzels!)

TV | 07. januar 2013

In my garage.

Brian H | 07. januar 2013

@TV;
No prob. First, arrange 800V service from your local utility ...

FLsportscarenth... | 08. januar 2013

Between Key West and Miami, All along I-95 to New York...

drp | 08. januar 2013

Kalamazoo Michigan. Exit 76 ASAP! I cannot visit family or relatives or work while living in Chicago. I would love that charger in Kalamazoo as soon as possible and very respectfully request that one place there.

hsadler | 08. januar 2013

@tcunning

"I wish they focused less on driving coast to coast and more on connecting major cities. I think it is impractical to drive from coast to coast as having to stop for 60 minutes every 3-4 hours is too much time wasted."

Yes, maybe time wasted - but to drive for free is a good incentive to make up for that time.

scottssp | 08. januar 2013

Between LA and Phoenix maybe Chiriaco Summit

Bukkemyr | 08. januar 2013

I would like tesla to put up some superchargers in Norway that would basicly cover the whole country with 10- 15 superchargers, since we are the second biggest market after USA , i hope they do that.

Baer | 08. januar 2013

I-91 and I-90 intersection in Massachusetts. This would service north/south drivers from New York to Vermont and back. It would also service east/west drivers from Boston to Albany and Toronto and back.

BruceD | 08. januar 2013

For us West Coasters, I'd encourage them to complete the I-5 corridor on up thru Oregon into British Columbia. The add the west-east Interstates adding I-90, I-10 and I-80...then adding in the I-15, I-70 corridors and basically build out the latice connecting Interstates every 100 miles across the country.

Brian H | 08. januar 2013

hsadler;
Free ... how much is an MS fillup, again?

MrB | 08. januar 2013

Somewhere on 101 in California between Gilroy and Santa Barbara, say Paso Robles, King City or San Louis Obispo.

jat | 08. januar 2013

@Carefree - most of CA is within range of a Supercharger right now with only 6 online. So, I think it is not unreasonable to think that 200 Superchargers can cover most of the population of the US, or an average of 4 per state. You won't have them in major cities, but rather around 75mi away from them on interstates.

aaronw2 | 08. januar 2013

I'd also like to see some superchargers along CA highway 395 east of the Sierras. South Lake Tahoe and Yosemite are some other places. Maybe Monterey or Carmel for those trips through Big Sur. While 150 mile intervals is good I think it also makes sense to place them in tourism spots where people may be staying at a hotel.

Brian H | 09. januar 2013

jat
150 miles. It would take at least 50% more to get 75 mile spacing.

gregv64 | 09. januar 2013

If you're staying overnight at a hotel you don't need a supercharger. We need hotels to put in Level 2 chargers. There's already a level 2 charger in Yosemite Valley.

jat | 09. januar 2013

@BrianH - 75mi in each direction out of major cities, which is 150mi spacing. Ie, driving up 75N through Atlanta, you could charge at Macon and then regardless of which interstate you took out you would hit another Supercharger at about 150mi from the last one.

@gregv64 - yes, the hotel I am staying at next week has two L2 chargers. I could probably make do without (it is 110mi away), but it means I don't have to worry about it at all.

NHLakegirl | 23. januar 2013

We drive New Jersey to New Hampshire frequently, 330 miles, along route 684,84,Mass Pike (90), 495,3. Somewhere along 84 north of Hartford CT south of Sturbridge MA would be perfect.
The Supercharger in Milford CT is along route 95, and most of us who live on the east coast would rather have our teeth drilled then sit in that parking lot of a highway on the way north.

jchangyy | 23. januar 2013

San Diego

DhavalP | 23. januar 2013

Definitely need the Chicago-NY corridor taken care of. This links Clevland-Pittsburg- and Philly as well.

edavis008 | 23. januar 2013

There are 12 million people in the Texas triangle. We need superchargers here!

Tylyoung | 26. januar 2013

Along all interstates at aproximately 150 mile intervals. Also at major rest stops. All of the Superchargers should be near easy on-off access to the freeway.

DeanG | 26. januar 2013

Along Route 13 or 113 from Delaware to Virginia. This is a major route from NY to the Outer Banks.

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