The 30 Year Tesla

The 30 Year Tesla

I am generally against new car purchases. I mean its a very expensive proposition unless you happen to be a multi-millionaire or billionaire. However when Tesla announced it's unlimited warranty on batteries and drive unit, I began cooking some of the numbers on a Tesla in my head.

Is a 30 year old Tesla a possible thing , I began to wonder? How much maintenance would you need in 30 years and what would that contribute to the overall cost of ownership? I began thinking that if you could own your car for 30 years a Tesla would end up being far more affordable as a new car purchase than almost any other vehicle out there at a $60,000 price mark.

Assuming I spent what I spent on gas during my commute years in California I could easily spend $300,000 on gas in a 30 year period. How much a 30 years of Tesla supercharge costs at about 95 miles per day? Now if the soon to be Model 3 debuts at $35,000 and has great durability and the same warranty, and can get to the 400km + range I think I may actually buy a new car. What do people think of the Idea of the 30 year Tesla? Is this even within the realm of possibility? What are the numbers really? I am sure there are many factors I have not yet considered.If I can make a good case I might be able to sell Tesla as my companies corporate vehicle in California. That would be a lesser term of purchase though.

sofaguy | 24 oktober 2014

Get a life, you are obviously kidding!
If not SORRY !!!

vgarbutt | 24 oktober 2014

While tesla is an amazing machine, but like all machines on the road, the brutal truth is that the road is a rough place, and it will kill any vehicle given time. Constant vibration, huge torqe forces, huge shocks, wild temperature swings, salt water, dust, If a Tesla could live 16 years it could go through 2 warrantied batteries. Teslas are built to last, and made of aluminum, so perhaps with a replacement of the wheels and suspension and a new battery half way, they may last 16 years.

Red Sage ca us | 24 oktober 2014

The battery cells in an 85 kWh battery pack should be good for up to 3,000 cycles, minimum. That is from zero-to-full-to-zero. Call it 250 miles per cycle. That comes to 750,000 miles. At 95 miles per day, that would take ~7,895 days, or 21 years, 7 months, two weeks, one day or so to drive that far. But if you only drive around 20,000 miles per year, instead of 35,000 per year... It would last around 37 years, 6 months. 25,000 miles per year puts you right at 30 years longevity on an original 85 kWh battery pack.

nikolateslas88 | 24 oktober 2014

well if the induction motor is built like the one i have, that one part should last a really long time. i have an old drill press like 50 or more years old and that "squirrel cage" and coil work very well and yes this thing has a ton of wear on it and the old wiring shelac on it. with todays plastics and insulator materials its should last a long time without lots of abuse.

batteries seem to be the part that will wear out,rotor bearings,and aluminum oxidation of the frame over time if things are not cared for.

the usual brake shocks and basics,im sure would wear out too....

i like your guys numbers!! seems like a sweet deal lol ;)

Bikezion | 25 oktober 2014

30 years ago is only 1984! I would hope the Tesla lasts that long! Although can you think of any really desirable cars from 1984?

At 400,000 miles (as short as 8 years for some), the model S compares favorably against pretty much ANY car. Even a paid for one that you already own. Ok a paid for Prius is still cheaper.... But if you count the price of the Prius, or the misery of driving it, the Tesla still wins!

Bikezion | 25 oktober 2014

By the way supercharge is free.*

*by free, I mean prepaid at time of purchase for $2,000, unlimited use thereafter.

alton.obriant | 25 oktober 2014

Wow guys thanks! Some simply great feedback. Sounds like maybe Im only half the whackadoo I thought I might be! There are plenty of guys who've invested in keeping cars alive from the 60's and earlier so I know its totally possible. It occurred to me early on that most if not all the mechanical parts will last longer in an electric car brakes and bearings being the main exception. From this feedback it looks like I might get away with a single battery replacement several major maintenances and some running gear work. Of course taking meticulous care might have to do interior work too. Its looking good with the lifetime supercharging!

Brian H | 25 oktober 2014

Actually, the brakes may outlast the car. Most drivers use them from 5-0 mph, barely enough to remove the rust. ;)

ggawdy | 26 oktober 2014

I have a benz I have been driving for 27 years. It is more than feasible to have a car for 30 years especially if electric. Without all the extra moving parts, lubricants etc. It is more than possible if you take well enough care of your vehicle. Since my Benz has lasted me 27 years I am more than confident the Tesla would last me 30 percent longer with 30 percent less cost overall. Providing the circuits involved are of higher grade components.

ggawdy | 26 oktober 2014

BikeZion.. I can right this very second.. the Olds Cutlass, The Delorian, the mercedes diesel, the firebird, the camaro, there is many cars worth it.

Bikezion | 26 oktober 2014

The Cutlass? Seriously? I would have crushed that car new..... I'll give you the Delorean and the diesel Merc. A 1984 Firebird or Camaro? Yuck yuck yuck!

Bikezion | 26 oktober 2014

A Ferrari 288 GTO, and a whole host of group B cars. Technically the GTO was a group B car, if anybody was really dumb enough to rally their Ferrari!

biggestfan | 28 oktober 2014

Jay Leno has an old electric that he says needs no maintenance....

Homebrook | 28 oktober 2014

Any car, electric or not, can last indefinitely with proper maintenance and repairs. Given that a Tesla has radically fewer moving parts and things that can wear out or degrade it will be much easier and cost much less to keep one running than an ICE. I don't think it will be that difficult to keep a Tesla running for 30 years. The larger issue will be, will you want to?

Sin_Gas | 28 oktober 2014

I typically own my cars 14 years. They all had good motors and drive lines with no issues. That's not the problem,

It's all the other stuff, that even electric cars have that poops out. Like suspension parts, attachments points to the frame, wiring harness cancer, and two biggest reasons, is that I just was tired of the car, and wanted a new one, or I could not get it fixed. These are somewhat alleviated by the Tesla experience, but not completely. In every case, someone else got my car and was perfectly happy with it, and enjoyed many
miles of travel.

Sin Gas

Brian H | 28 oktober 2014

An early reviewer said the suspension etc. on the MS seemed exceptionally robust, over-engineered even.