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automatic charge port doors

So per the new Tesla brochure, new models should include an automatic charge port door

Can anybody who's received a recent delivery, within the past few weeks (after the 3Q2014 earnings call) confirm if their Model S includes this feature?

I spoke to my DS, and she said that it's a feature only coming to the dual drive motors, but the brochure does not make this distinction.

Thanks!

Captain_Zap | 3 december 2014

I really don't understand the need for such a feature. It seems like just one more little thing that could have problems.
I wish Tesla would take on the "KISS" philosophy on some things.
It worked great as it was.

dglauz | 3 december 2014

What does an automatic charge port door do?

brian_in_TX | 3 december 2014

dglauz, I believe it closes automatically. I'm not sure why it's a big deal, but I don't have my MS yet.

Capertillar | 3 december 2014

It supposedly auto-opens/closes when you approach with the charging cable. While not a big deal, and yes, it's one additional item that could fail in time, but if it's an available convenience feature, I'd rather have it than not.

rjt | 3 december 2014

I always forget to close mine after charging. Useful option.

Bet TSLA | 3 december 2014

It's a small deal, but yet another step towards the car attaching itself to a charger and detaching itself once charged. You know that's the way things are going....

Grinnin'.VA | 3 december 2014

@ Captain_Zap | December 3, 2014

Re: automatic charge port door
I really don't understand the need for such a feature.

More times than I care to admit, I've forgotten to close the charge port after disconnecting the charging connector when I left home. So I think of this coming feature as a good thing.

Go Tesla!

neilhamrin | 3 december 2014

And for us in the cold North, remember to wipe dry the port door after a car wash. Learned the hard way.

Brian H | 3 december 2014

Like walking around with your fly open. There are no automatic zippers yet, though.

Tâm | 3 december 2014

I was more concerned about how to return the cable back to its holder neatly and then I completely forgot about my own charge port door.

Very annoying!

It took me a while to remember to close my own charge port door.

DJung | 4 december 2014

I had a weird habit of forgetting to close my charge port door. Every so often I'd be cruising down the street (especially if i'm in a bit of a rush) and I won't notice the open charge port warning on the dash. I had to pull over on the street a few times to close my fly (happens more often that I'd like to admit). In my defense it's been only a few weeks since ownership and I don't have such issues anymore.

Mark K | 4 december 2014

This is a good thing.

It will replace the current release solenoid and the magnetic latch (the adhesive there had been a failure point). It won't be a net increase in complexity. Rather, it will increase reliability, as well as utility.

I think this will become the standard before long.

clomi | 4 december 2014

Received my Model S85 6 days ago, doesn't have that feature.

J.T. | 4 december 2014

Next up: Rain sensing Pano roof and windows.

PBEndo | 4 december 2014

All they have to do is make the charge port door open towards the front of the car. Then it will "automatically" close with the first maximum discharge event or when you are traveling fast enough for the wind to close it.

Captain_Zap | 4 december 2014

@JT

First things first! ;-)

I left my flap open a couple times when I first got the car and before we got the visible alert. It was no big deal to stop and close it. I close it without even thinking about it. It is just like the gas cover on a car, I'm programmed to shut it whether I mean to or not.

I lock the house door automatically and without thinking about it. Mr. Zap can vouch for how he routinely gets locked in the garage or outside.

J.T. | 4 december 2014

@CZ First things first! ;-)

I'd be interested to know what owners think the first thing should be. I doubt there's a concensus.

jjs | 4 december 2014

I think this is a welcome addition. Agree with Mark K in that the charge port door is already a point of failure. I doubt it will increase reliability even over time. The one thing they should add (and I'm sure they are all over this) is the ability to open/shut the door manually in case there is a failure of some type.

I too have often forgotten to close the charge port door. Not a big deal until winter and you don't see the warning until you are on an ice covered street.

Captain_Zap | 4 december 2014

Fine tuning the options we already have?

I'm seriously concerned about the car getting bloated. I hope Tesla knows when to draw the line or spin off a luxury package and a sport package.

The Datsun Z cars were called "Fairladies" and they were really well designed sporty cars for their time that sold well. Then Nissan took over and started adding in the gadgets like the motorized rear pop out windows and vibrating seats. The original designer said that when Nissan took over they turned the "Fairlady" into the "Fatlady". You'll see "Fairladies" on the road now, but not "Fatladies".

mvannah | 4 december 2014

This feature is in line with the autopilot announcement. Elon specifically said that they will be working on an automatic charging connection feature (he mentioned an articulating arm) in the future. When your car drops you off and goes to charge itself, it will need the ability to open and shut the charging door on its own.

sagebrushnw | 4 december 2014

@ C_Z

"The Datsun Z cars were called "Fairladies" and they were really well designed sporty cars for their time that sold well. Then Nissan took over and started adding in the gadgets like the motorized rear pop out windows and vibrating seats. The original designer said that when Nissan took over they turned the "Fairlady" into the "Fatlady". You'll see "Fairladies" on the road now, but not "Fatladies".

Datsun Z cars were always built by Nissan. They were initially sold under the "Datsun" label until about 1981 but always built by Nissan.

I still own my 1971 240Z.

aarnold | 4 december 2014

S85, just got it 2 days ago, not automatic. Would be nice, but not an issue.

NOLEK SUM | 4 december 2014

Brian H

Good one.

A welcome feature. Now give us an auto frunk.

GEMs | 4 december 2014

Picked up inventory Model 85 and it has auto open charge port . Picked up on 12/02/2014.

sbeggs | 4 december 2014

@garymccown,
Any impressions so far (haha!)

Capertillar | 4 december 2014

Thanks garymccown. Interesting to know that some vehicles are starting to get this feature, although I'm not surprised that the inventory models would get them first, as I assume this is a feature they're trying to showcase, however useful/useless it really is.

Bighorn | 4 december 2014

@gary
It's the closer that's new. Supposedly only on the Ds.

Captain_Zap | 4 december 2014

@nwsage

OK. I got that story from my brother that just sold the '74 Z that I grew up with. I learned to drive a clutch in it.
I'll chalk it up to urban legend.

Captain_Zap | 4 december 2014

@mvannah

When I was at the event and he talked about the automatic plugging in, we thought he was joking.

NielsChr | 4 december 2014

Yes it has always had the popup function. But some claim it should also auto Close on new models.
i too have driven off, looking into the mirror to discover a open charge port.

As far as EM takling about car automaticaly plugin/plugout I belive he Was thinking, and mentioned that he had not spoke With R&D about it.

Someone mentioned that all it takes is to reverse the spring and chance the se controling the Electro magnet intead of lock&poput it should be a pushout&springback.
This will even save some minor energi, as it is now the Electro magnet are 'on' all time, except when chargeport is open. Changing this behavier Will do that it should only be 'on' when the port are requested open.

AoneOne | 4 december 2014

I don't think the current implementation uses an electromagnet. I think there's simply a permanent magnet and a solenoid that pushes the door open enough that the spring can then overcome the much-reduced magnetic force and fully open the door.

brian_in_TX | 16 december 2014

It's now a couple of weeks later. Anyone out there get this feature on a newly delivered S85? (non-D)

pshuppel | 16 december 2014

Got my Model S 12/13/14 and my charge port is manual.

Bighorn | 16 december 2014

It was advertised as a D feature.

Pungoteague_Dave | 16 december 2014

It has been described in other threads. Now works to open or close either (1) manually, (2) with button on HPWC, or (3) from touchscreen. This will be a nice feature as I regularly forgot to close the charge port. Not sure why, as I never failed to close gasoline filler doors, but it was a regular thing with our old MS.

mjames | 16 december 2014

The site said it is a feature for the dual motor edition. But it will probably because standard soon enough.

JackClark | 21 december 2014

This doesn't answer the single/dual motor question, but here it is on a P85D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjHWN-pL9_g

It closes a lot faster than I imagined it would.

@Pungoteague_Dave - Looks like you can add a 4th method to the list; just unplug..

Brian H | 22 december 2014

Chomp!

mspapens | 2 juli 2015

Took delivery June 29th of S85D (Europe model).
No auto closing charge port here.

The charge port I have does not have the 'led' ring around the plug, but only the led's on the right, outside of the port.

Rocky_H | 2 juli 2015

@mspapens, Regarding the LED ring versus the row of LED lights behind the charge port, that is a difference on the European cars versus the North America ones because of the different sized charge plug they use. The European ones use the common charge cable standard called "Type 2", which is too big to fit the LED ring around it. The North American ones use a different Tesla-specific plug that is smaller diameter, so they can fit that ring around it in the charge port.

mspapens | 2 juli 2015

@Rocky_H
Thanks for that. It explains the difference.

Any new owners with auto closing charge port?

ragtopday | 2 juli 2015

When I owned a Volt I lost track of how many times I drove off with the door open and had to stop to close it, It was a common problem and some Volt owners kept a stick (wrapped in cloth to prevent scratching) so that they could close the door by reaching out the window

Made in CA | 2 juli 2015

Yes - ours has it. May 2015 build 85D.

whitex | 2 juli 2015

Auto closing present on P85D delivered in May this year in the US.

diciaccio | 2 juli 2015

Auto closing present on 85D delivered in May this year in the US.

Love the feature. One less thing to worry about and it works great.

diciaccio | 2 juli 2015

Auto closing present on 85D delivered in May this year in the US.

Love the feature. One less thing to worry about and it works great.

JPPTM | 3 juli 2015

Auto-charge port door on my wife's new S70D (June build).

tcandmm | 3 juli 2015

Yeah, auto charge port closing only available on the dual motor models, not sure how difficult or cost prohibitive it is to make it available on all MS models, my 2015 S60 does not have it.

Patrick C. | 3 juli 2015

Available only in US

mspapens | 4 juli 2015

Mine closes only after opening port and not connecting cable within a few minutes. It does not close automatically after charging.
S85D in europe, delivered june 15.

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