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Well, there goes that theory

Well, there goes that theory

Tesla will do its best to get all reservations configured by the new year. Reservation #12,xxx and bubkus. Nothing, nada, zilch. Here is hoping to some progress in the coming days. However, now that the quarter is over, I have a feeling the rush to get cars out will be diminished by Tesla as the pressure to meet sales quotas is no longer as urgent as it was last year.

congrats to all those that have their cars. Still waiting here. Ive gone back and forth cancelling multiple times but Ive hung in there so far. Its the point of no return for me. If I cancel now, my car will be ready next week. oh well.

Ankit Mishra | 1 januari 2016

Why does it matter? You are still going to face a wait of at least 5-6 months. Reserving few weeks early wouldn't cut these waiting months.
And Tesla runs a business. They are always eager to sell more cars. A lot of unnecessary and irrational theories of few people have been debunked by Tesla. This feeling of yours will be debunked too (my feeling).

aesculus | 1 januari 2016

@socalsam: I would wait a bit before cancelling. Especially until you can have some quality time with the car to test various aspects. Its not perfect for me by any means and the MX 2.0 will probably be closer to what I really want but who knows when and if that will ever happen.

So for now I will probably take the 6 seater, which reduces some of my issues (non folding middle seats, poor visibility out the back). I have some additional pressures to get a car sooner than later as I have someone needing my current car, otherwise I would probably wait a year more.

The amount of tech in this car is both amazing and bothersome. We have already had numerous reports of door issues (both front and FWD). Some were production issues but we are already seeing situations that challenge the engineering. Maybe some can be fixed via software but I am sure lots will have to come with hw changes later. And added to all of that is the more mechanical tech you put into a car, the higher the maintenance costs will be (and problems). The MX is full of mechanical tech.

elguapo | 1 januari 2016

Tesla still has pressure to deliver as many Xs as possible in Q1, especially if they didn't get as many out as they wanted in Q4. They are under constant pressure to meet their guidance. We will get a lot more info and guidance on their Q4 call. Patience is critical with TM. They always deliver - pun intended.

carlk | 1 januari 2016

Your number sure will be called next week. It's really not to your benefit if Tesla opened configuration to all reservation holders now. This inviting a few thousand per week strategy is probably the best way to give priority to both time reservation was made and order was placed. I do find it contradictory that you have problem for waiting a few extra weeks but no problem for not getting it at all by canceling the reservation though.

socalsam | 1 januari 2016

@ankit-

what the heck are you talking about? What theory of mine is going to get debunked? I proposed no theory. I proposed fact. People kept saying that reservation holders will configure by the new year- Im a reservation holder and its 2016 and I haven't configured.

Im not complaining, Im not criticizing, Im not proposing any theory- Im stating a fact that I am a reservation holder and I have not been invited to configure.

Seriously man- you need to get a grip and stop coming to the defense of Tesla anytime someone posts anything at all that doesnt jive with your brown nosing philosophy.

Im the one with a deposit on a car that I don't have. Im the one that already owns a Tesla model S. Im the one that has been juggling a car schedule trying to figure out how to accommodate a car schedule in my family thinking that my model X would have been delivered by now. You have no skin in the game and frankly your posts are seriously becoming more and more annoying with all due respect.

@aesculus- no Im not canceling. The 6 seater seems to fit the bill for me bette as well. Honestly I saw the thread where the people were having issues with their doors and such and frankly while I was surprised, I wasnt. After all these years of delays, lack of communication and now to see cars whose doors wont close is troublesome. I seriously thought these cars would not be having these issues but frankly just part of the process I guess.

@elguapo- Someone needs to put serious pressure on Elon to get more information to reservation holders on the Q4 call. The lack of information is embarrassing.

Ankit Mishra | 1 januari 2016

@aesculus
He won't cancel easily. He has braved through the gloomy days during X launch even though his condition required him to buy a new car ( His lease was going out. Was it a Mercedes?). The wait he had to go through is certainly unfortunate. But his only problem is waiting period for the car. He isn't in that school of thought which finds some features lacking in X and are willing to cancel due to that ( nothing wrong in that school of thought). I appreciate the distance he has travelled and hope he can wait a little more. As everyone can see, the unicorn is real and there are real people owning it and there no. is increasing day by day. Cheer up @socalsam bro!!

Ankit Mishra | 1 januari 2016

@socalsam
Well, I was pointing out your feeling that Tesla will slow down with X because year gas ended. I was saying this feeling/ theory will be debunked. Tesla will keep on increasing the production and deliveries of X.
If you were not putting a theory that Tesla will begin slacking now because no pressure to follow the year end target then I apologise. I misunderstood you.

Ankit Mishra | 1 januari 2016

"You have no skin in the game and frankly your posts are seriously becoming more and more annoying with all due respect."
Yes. My posts might be annoying but what's that got to do with my having no skin in game. If you feel that being a non owner makes me unfit to have discussions with you, kindly let me know. I won't bother you if that's the case.

AlMc | 1 januari 2016

@socalsam: The only reason I would cancel at this point would be if there was a feature/option that is not available or if the cost was more than you planned to incur.

Consolation: As with the Ss, where the earlier ones *seem* to have a few problems that the later ones did (do) not. Thus, you may have fewer things on any potential SC 'punch list' with a later build X.

carlk | 1 januari 2016

It's time for someone to post the reservation agreement that op has signed but did not understand again.

socalsam | 1 januari 2016

Ankit,

you have repeatedly shown with your posts that you are incapable of having a logical discussion about the pros and cons of Tesla. You are an obvious cheerleader and therefore I find no value in your comments because your sole goal is to constantly defend Tesla regardless of how well they do or how badly they screw up.

Im happy to have a discussion with you but not one that constantly circles around how great Tesla is and how anyone that criticizes them or comments on them at all is just out to sabotage Tesla.

You repeatedly said Tesla is taking its time cant be bothered with trying to have better communication with paying customers because they are out to make a perfect car. Well did you read the thread where owners have cars whose doors wont close? Or are having other issues? So much for perfection right?

Why you hang out here and post on a forum where you have no "skin in the game" is anyones guess. I just want to know when my car is coming. Its too late to make other arrangements for me and Im going to stick it out and wait but I don't need you questioning me every time I post and ask legitimate questions about the status of my car.

Ankit Mishra | 1 januari 2016

All right. Point noted. I will try my best to reduce my responses to your posts.

socalsam | 1 januari 2016

Carl-

i understand the reservation agreement. Re read my post. Im not complaining, Im not criticizing. Im commenting.

Nor am I cancelling my reservation. Ill wait- Ive waited this long but seriously, trying to have a rational discussion on this forum seems impossible because the Tesla apologists jump all over you for simply stating a comment.

carlk | 1 januari 2016

@socalsam The agreement essentially says you are at Tesla's mercy to sell you anything and Tesla is at your mercy to buy anything from it. You are "commenting" that Tesla is not selling you a car now while not having any problem of saying you could have canceled the reservation. People like you seem only remember half of the agreement you have signed.

I'm just another reservation holder who had a number only a few hundreds ahead of you and have waited about the same amount time as you did. What apologist you are talking about?

socalsam | 1 januari 2016

Im not commenting that tesla is not selling me a car. Im commenting that Tesla is delayed again. Pay attention. You seem very confused.

carlk | 1 januari 2016

What delay? Who gave you the schedule of the car? The car they don't even have to sell you vis-a-vis the agreement you signed?

socalsam | 1 januari 2016

Posts like that make you the tesla apologist. Tesla has given a schedule numerous times and has not been able to stick with it. You are confused again. Not sure if its the left over hangover from your new years eve party or something chronic. If the latter, I suggest that you have it checked out by a qualified professional. I can make some referrals if you wish.

carlk | 1 januari 2016

Personal attack will never strengthen your case. It will only show your weakness.

Redo your argument or I will not respond, which I would think you probably prefer.

elguapo | 1 januari 2016

Bottom line - Tesla provides estimates to the best of their ability. Such as "deliveries beginning early 2016" for the X P90D. Delivers for production P90Ds will, in all likelihood, begin in Q1 2016 which qualifies for "early". Other than that, I can't think of very specific dates they've provided recently and missed. Yes, they were way late on the X, as they were the S, but we all want an awesome product and everyone knows patience is key.

Not an apologist here, just a realist. Ranting in the forum won't speed up delivery. If they could deliver 20,000 Xs in Q1, they probably would. But they can't make them that fast and also need to be concerned with initial quality, etc.

@socalsam Could you please describe the schedule you refer to when you say they've given a schedule? That would actually help a productive dialogue here versus a series of angry/frustrated and unproductive posts.

Farmer Dave | 1 januari 2016

Ah well, another thread to ignore...

socalsam | 1 januari 2016

@carlk- you are correct. I would prefer if you would not respond. Thank you.

@elguapo- my original post wasn't a rant, a complaint or anything negative. It was simply an observation on the current state of things as they are with the model X. Farmer Dave is right. Ignore this thread because it seems that unless you post anything other than glowing accolades about tesla, then you are automatically labeled as a complainer.

elguapo | 1 januari 2016

@socalsam I am sorry, then what was the point of posting? I was trying to understand why you posted a new thread at all.

elguapo | 1 januari 2016

Not trying to be difficult, trying to encourage open discussion. I don't care if people are critical, I just think we should try to be civil, reasonable and realistic.

Red Sage ca us | 1 januari 2016

socalsam: Are you sure your order hasn't been canceled while you weren't looking...?