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## How many Wh/mile are you averaging? We are at 291.

We have driven our 60KWh Tesla MS for over 5,200 miles so far in about 4 months. We are averaging a rather surprising 291 Wh/mile. My wife drives it most of the time and yes, she is a 'safe' driver; always drives at or below speed limit.

I know it's not really an apples to apples comparison as terrain, weather and driving habits vary. But I thought it would be a fun exercise as many of you by now have several months under the belt and have a meaningful 'average'.

Type away :-)

Vivek.

jamestily | 2013年8月20日

ms60 pennsylvania, combined local driving and trips, about 2400 miles per month. 284 wh/mi for last 11,300 miles. Last 1200 miles in summer averaged 267 wh/mi using ac normally.

sp | 2013年8月20日

MS60, 3000 miles, 321 Wh/mi, but dropping fast - averaged 350-360 first thousand miles or so.

David59 | 2013年8月20日

60 kwh, 19" tires, 7,800 miles, Daily commuter with passenger, 335 kwh/mile.

Windsurfer | 2013年8月20日

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I'm curious: how do you convert kWh/mile into cost per mile? I understand that electricity costs vary throughout the country....

vired99 | 2013年8月20日

Courtesy @hillcountryfun above

60 KWh = 60,000 Wh

60,000 Wh / 205 miles = 292 wh/m

ssarker | 2013年8月20日

60 kWh, 19", 4100 miles over flat mostly suburban Midwest roads, no AC/ pano and front windows open 90% of the time, steadily down to 307 Wh/m until I switched to Sport steering and now back up to 310 Wh/mile and climbing.

Anonymous | 2013年8月20日

I know there are more people at > 400Wh.
Way to go Mathew98, you knocked me off the top spot (that I didn't deserve).

Lolachamp, I want to see your numbers!

eugenedickens | 2013年8月20日

337 Wh/mi after 6700 miles and 3 months time. Oklahoma with usually hot temps (those this year not so bad). I have taken several road trips, including 267 mile from Tulsa to Dallas on one charge! Thankfully, a cool night so AC not required...

emoflash | 2013年8月20日

355 Wh/mi at 1100 miles total. Still in demo mode but I can see I will be down closer to 300 Wh/mi when I get to normal driving.

portia | 2013年8月20日

sig performance, 21", about 7300 miles, average 355 Wh/m
lots of short trips, on long trips I get better numbers.

Newampster | 2013年8月20日

Avg 318, 2800 mi in 5 weeks, MS85, 19. I have made 3 road trips hypermiling as low as 270. But the real fun is taking my wife's advice to " drive fast and take chances". I hope to join the 400 club.

P85 - just a hair under 9K miles. Average 340 wh/mile. Live in hills, so up and down really bumps you up a bit.

When driving long distance on flat highway, averages about 290-295 wh/mile at 70 mph.

Mathew98 | 2013年8月21日

@tezzla , @Newampster - I just checked my latest usage again. It's up to 416...

Alright, alright, I'll slow down every once in a blue moon so you guys can catch up and enjoy the instant rocket launches too...

dtesla | 2013年8月21日

7000 miles, 19" tires average 316 Wh/Mile. Include some winter driving with battery heaters running (so close to 400 Wh/mile in the winter) and 20 miles at the track @ 1000 Wh/mile (with 40 other Tesla owners).

murraypetera | 2013年8月21日

I created a google form for this:

Form entry and you should have access to the sheet as well.

I need to enter my own data. I have about 8k miles and avg a bit under 300 w/mile.

The Form has the following so far.
Miles Driven Wh/mile Avg All 336.692307692308
20002.5

Getting Amped Again | 2013年8月21日

I want TM to add another few ways to view remaining range:

1) Ideal
2) Rated
3) Projected
4) User Average
5) Average of 1,2,3 and 4

Kiddn'.

Actually this is a useful thread and thanks @murraypetera for the summary.

HGP16 | 2013年8月21日

Before I saw @murraypetera’s tally, I also ran the numbers. I left out any wH/mile that did not have a mileage linked to them and came up with a weighted average of 321 wh/mile compared to the 337 reported above. I guess the high-consuming (heavy-footed and/or traffic-bound) drivers are putting on fewer miles than their “conservative” counterparts?

willardb | 2013年8月22日

305 wph, S85 Kwh, 19" wheels, 11,500 miles.

Lots of Florida driving on route US 95 and the car seems to love beautiful A1A along the coast where the limit is 35 mph.

vired99 | 2013年8月22日

Like @murraypetera's Google form. Hope many more people would add their data.

@murraypetera, is there a way to see the summary data?

willardb | 2014年6月8日

297 wpm now with over 26,000 miles. Mainly on US 95 in Florida.

S85, 19 in. wheels,most options. Fantastic car!

ziggy | 2014年6月8日

341 for 30K miles. I admit I have a heavy foot and I live in the mountains.

sule | 2014年6月8日

My current lifetime average of mostly highway driving is 218 Wh/km for some 6000 km. In British imperial units that would be 351 Wh/mi in some 3700 mi. NOT driving slowly, having lots of fun, sometimes I experiment in lowering my power usage.

Thomas N. | 2014年6月8日

363 over 8000 miles. I floor it every chance I get and do not make many freeway trips at all.

jjaeger | 2014年6月8日

348 over 21,000 miles. Enjoy the car and what it can do every chance I get. A fair # of highway miles on trips from SF Bay Area to S CA and AZ.

david.baird | 2014年6月8日

236 w/km. around 350 per mile.

I like to get up to the speed limit quickly.

I have seen 197 kmph on the speedo.

sule | 2014年6月8日

@Lycanthrope: 236 Wh/km is 380 Wh/mi, not 350...

carlk | 2014年6月8日

P85+, 2800 miles, 340Wh/mi.

The S60 loaner I got the other say with 5000+ miles on it has 330Wh/mi. It should represent average of many drivers.

When I got my car back from SC after some interior adjustment and curtesy inspectiong work it showed 380 Wh/mi average. Hmmm....it must have passed the speed test.

NOLEK SUM | 2014年6月8日

Great post!

85, 6300 miles, 305 kWh. (How cool if we could get this info off the ios app)

Normally drive 5 over. One 600 mile road trip, 5 of 400 miles, all with very significant elevation changes. The latter 400 mile is a regular one, almost weekly in the summer, and on the 200 mile outward bound, which has some 11000 feet in total climb (5600 ft net) I stick right on the limit on the climbs.

AmpedRealtor | 2014年6月8日

10,000 miles @ 289 Wh/mi

jordanrichard | 2014年6月8日

4500 miles @ 327 wh/mi. My typical cruising speed on the highway is 75 and we have quite a few hills here in CT.

jomorale | 2014年6月8日

P85+ with 22k miles, 322 kW/mi

Dr. Bob Reinke | 2014年6月8日

We reacently had our MS realigned. There have been several previous alignments but continued to rip off the inside tread on both rear and front tires both 21" and 19." This realignment, I demanded they set all the the camber to 0. (go to TireRack site on the alignment page) SC assured me that they did take out pretty much all the negative camber. Now my MS hand pushes out of the garage with ease and no tire chirping on the epoxy floor. Throughout the first 14,000 miles, the MS was difficult to keep streight on the road--seemed to bounce arround like a rubber ball. Now it is so easy to drive. Before this alignment, we have never been able to reduce the power consumption below 300 wpm and doubted others did either. On the firest drive after alignment, at freeway speed I was using 290 wpm. Thinking I may have a tail wind. At the next exit, I turned around and drove the other way with no change in power consumption. It takes a great deal of power to scrub your high camber tires down the road ripping rubber off. Now power consumption of less than 300 wpm is very normal. If you are using too much tires and too much juice, get your MS realigned without the negative camber. If your SC won't, take it to a good alignment shop that corrects the factory alignment problem with Mercs.

murraypetera | 2014年6月8日

40/60 19" rims first set of tires were Goodyear. I had to replace team a 22k miles due to uneven ware. My hope is with the washer fix and alignment my new tires will give 30k at least.

I started tracking monthly with my trip meter.

Wh/mile. Ideal range after full charge
Sep 298 Wh/mi 2013
Oct 305 Wh/mi
Nov 320 Wh/mi
Dec 360 Wh/mi
2014
Jan 370
Feb 370
Mar 346 2450 mi
April 298 2377 mi charge 138 8am
May 290 1777 New Summer Rims & Primacy XMX4 Tires 5/16

Brian H | 2014年6月9日

carlk;
You sweet young thang, it's "courtesy", and a curtsey is not necessary. Even when you're wearing your best skirt.

SCCRENDO | 2014年6月9日

Probably have posted on this thread previously. 36000 miles 335 Wh/mi lifetime. Prior to my speeding ticket was 348 wH/mi.

cerjor | 2014年6月9日

22000 miles on my S85. Lifetime has been 309 Wh/mi. This includes three trips between Phoenix and Seattle.

TESLA168 | 2014年6月9日

3 days, 180 miles, averaging 345 wh/m here

sklancha | 2014年6月9日

I have a goal average of less than 300 wh/m, but don't seem to have the magic. 'Fabio' will be one month old tomorrow, and I have about 2,500 miles with a fairly even split between highway and city. My settings are all set, indicating that I want max range and I am a relatively unaggressive driver [unless I happen to be the first car at a red light... I can't help myself... that zero-to-speed limit timeframe is sooooo much fun]; I keep my AC setting at a balmy 78; I will get up to 80 on the highway if the traffic flow dictates- otherwise I will take the most steady speed lane; I added less-than-legal tint to decrease the influence of the Florida sun, but I still cannot get my average under 340!

The terrain in the Tampa region is relatively flat, traffic is generally heavy, and temperature hits the 90s
on a daily basis [all out of my control]l

I've been willing to be uncomfortably warm, added a 5th door window screen, don't open the windows or sunroof when the weather beckons for it, and drive below my pre-Fabio speeds in order to reach my goal, since I [at least initially] felt that I could do long distance travel once I hit my goal... but cannot seem to make much of a dent in my average.

Please do not make me give up my zero-to-speed-limit Tesla pleasure; but if you have any suggestions as to what else I can do to decrease my Wh/m average- I AM ALL EARS

RUNS KWH | 2014年6月9日

What is wh?

Bighorn | 2014年6月9日

@runs kWh
One one thousandth of your moniker

sklancha | 2014年6月9日

somebody correct me if I am wrong- as this is not my field of expertise-

I believe that Wh/h is same as kWh/h and [small w] and 1000 wh/h is equivalent to 1 kwh/h.

p.s. if I am wrong- correct me and then forget my pen name ;)

Bighorn | 2014年6月9日

@sklancha
It's Wh/m. W is always capitalized and is one one thousandth of a kWh. You may be confusing calories and kilocalories.

mal42north | 2014年6月9日

60kWhr 19" 23400miles 276Wh/mile

amitb00 | 2014年6月10日

337 wh/mi 5500 miles for Stela bought in early Mar and in South Florida. Love it

ssarker | 2014年6月10日

16K miles, most trips <10 miles
Got down to 305 Wh/m April 2013 to fall 2013
Up to 325 Wh/m after the winter
Hasn't gone down even with the warmer weather

NKYTA | 2014年6月10日

Now at 13K miles, 354 Wh/m.
Just took a weekend trip to Reno and got my lowest ever, 311 Wh/m.

Clearly I'm not afraid of the Go pedal.
:-)

ZRO CO2 | 2014年6月10日

AT about 9000KLM (5500Ml) averaging Rated of 187WH/KM (287WH/ML) Some days can get it down to 160WH/KLM (257wh/Ml)

podoffice | 2014年6月11日

I have a 60. During winter months I would average about 400.

This spring I got new summer tires. (19") Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus. I went with them over the Michelin Primacy tires mainly for the higher wear rating. The main reason for this was the fast wear on the inside edge of the rear tires.

Since I have the new tires I have been averaging under 280 wh/mile.

Is it the tires? I had a loaner which was also a 60 for a week while they worked on my car. In approximately 500 miles I was averaging about 295 wh/mile.

As a negative to the Pirelli tires, Tesla service wont touch your tires or mount them since they aren't a Tesla approved tire.

staze | 2014年6月11日

P85, 21s. 8k miles. 363Wh/m. I live in a moderately hilly part of SoCal. I started at 375 when I first owned the car and have been slowly lowering the average as I become more civil with it.

jajabor | 2014年6月11日

305wh/mile on MS60