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Model S Reservation Tally

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 249 (March 23, 2011)
P 3,446 (March 25, 2011)
R 218 (January 2011)

Canada
S 69 (March 24, 2011)
P 143 (March 9, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 55 (January 18, 2011)*
P 448 (March 28, 2011)

Hong Kong
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
P 17 (January 21, 2011)

S = Signature Series (Model S)
P = General Production (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family

* = On March 1, 2011, a Tesla member posted, "Got the following info from Tesla some days ago: In Europe they have reduced the Signature down to 500 and approximately 70 have been reserved." While 55 is a confirmed/posted reservation number from this forum, the 70 has yet to be verified by the actual European reservation holder.

Brian H | 2011年11月6日

Every passenger becomes a potential (likely) purchaser. That's why the volumes will jump. ;)

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

@Brian H. - Agreed.

@jackhub - I posted this before, but I believe their will be a huge surge in reservations after delivery.

For example, I informed 3 of my neighbors in the last couple days about the Model S (provided YouTube clips, website information, etc.). All 3 are plan on leasing/buying a Model S (they just want to drive mine first). I believe the Model S will have no problem going viral. I believe most of the initial reservation holders are like myself (i.e., can't speak enough about their Model S; shares the information with family and friends, annoys the wife with incessant "Model S Conversations," etc.). That being said, I believe it is reasonable to forecast for every early adopter Model S reservation holder, one to three friends/neighbors/co-workers will seriously consider or commit upon delivery.

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

@Brian H. - Agreed.

@jackhub - I posted this before, but I believe there will be a huge surge in reservations after delivery.

For example, I informed 3 of my neighbors in the last couple days about the Model S (provided YouTube clips, website information, etc.). All 3 are plan on leasing/buying a Model S (they just want to drive mine first). I believe the Model S will have no problem going viral. I believe most of the initial reservation holders are like myself (i.e., can't speak enough about their Model S; shares the information with family and friends, annoys the wife with incessant "Model S Conversations," etc.). That being said, I believe it is reasonable to forecast for every early adopter Model S reservation holder, one to three friends/neighbors/co-workers will seriously consider or commit upon delivery.

Thumper | 2011年11月7日

Every S buyer should be given the option of a box of brochures and reservation forms. As a stockholder and enthusiast, I am sure willing to do some evangelism. I have even imagined cold calling on a house nearby with a Lexus SC in the drive. "Hi, I see you like nice cars, want to go for a drive?

Volker.Berlin | 2011年11月7日

Thumper +1

I was planning on carrying a small deck of leaflets in the glove box. I don't know if this needs to be institutionalized.

Another thing Tesla could do to leverage the enthusiasm of (some of) its early adopters, is supporting test drives with forms and possibly some specific insurance waiver. For instance, if someone in Berlin wants to test drive my Model S they could just call me up. I'd take a photocopy of their id and license and have them sign a form provided by Tesla -- and then I could let them drive without worrying too much, even if I do not know them personally. Tesla should take care for recovering any cost incurring from that guy damaging my car, be it by way of a specific insurance or simply by holding that guy responsible. In any case, the hassle should be with Tesla, not with me.

Robert.Boston | 2011年11月7日

I asked Tesla a year ago for a stack of Model S marketing material, which they sent along happily. I hand these out to potential buyers in the electric industry (to which I consult). Cheap marketing for Tesla.

It'd be nice if there were a "referral program," which tracks who steers whom to Tesla. Perhaps reward people with a credit at the Tesla store, or even trips to Fremont to see the factory in person and meet the brass.

Volker.Berlin | 2011年11月7日

It'd be nice if there were a "referral program," [...] (Robert.Boston)

It'd by nice, true, but I'm afraid they won't invest into anything like that as long as they don't have to. As in "don't have to spend on advertising" or "don't have to offer leasing" or "don't have to brush up the forum website". This argument will probably be used (and rightfully so) until they have significantly less than one year of production reserved ahead. I don't see that happen any time soon...

The formal support for insured test drives on the other hand could save them actual money, but on then again it is questionable if they should point potential customers to existing customers with an outcome that is out of Tesla's control, rather then giving them a professional Tesla treat (requiring more showrooms, staff and demonstration vehicles).

jackhub | 2011年11月7日

@michiganmodels
Right on! It is difficult to imagine an early buyer of the Model S who won't be out there pitching. It is also difficult to imagine circumstances in which the Model S will not attract attention and questions in an "in use" setting. Viral is right!

jackhub | 2011年11月7日

My insurance policy insures any driver I give permission to drive my car. Isn't that standard?

Volker.Berlin | 2011年11月7日

My insurance policy insures any driver I give permission to drive my car. Isn't that standard? (jackhub)

Not necessarily. You also have to differentiate liability waivers and loss/damage waivers.

The liability waiver usually covers any drivers -- actually not strictly requiring your permission. It is your responsibility to keep the car appropriately secured, and to ensure that anyone who has access to the car has a valid driver's license. Otherwise you may be held (partly) liable in an accident. At least those are the rules in Germany.

For both liability and loss/damage there are offers that explicitly exclude any other drivers, which can considerably bring down the insurance fee but is obviously not a ideal choice in most settings. In any case, that's a specific I did not refer to.

Now the interesting stuff: Usually a loss/damage waiver has some substantial deductible. With $0 deductible, loss/damage insurance is prohibitively expensive. However, I'd rather confine potential Tesla customers to a test ride, than having them damage my car during a test drive and then having to take responsibility of the deductible on my own.

petero | 2011年11月7日

I also feel the 2013 production will quickly fill up after deliveries commence, showrooms get a drivable sample, and auto press road tests are published.

I recommend Tesla select first rate production cars for the auto press to evaluate, not early NUMMI pre or early production cars. If this is a make it or break it car, Tesla has to make sure these cars are as close to 100% as possible. Also make sure they get the 300 mile batteries. I would also recommend Tesla steal a page from Pontiac circa 1964-1970. Pontiac use to have a dealership (Royal) specially tune and prep (Bobcat Kit) GTOs for the press to test drive. These GTOs performed better than stock due to special tuning. Some magazines received tired “pool” cars and the performance and evaluations reflected poorly. The press pool cars should be very well maintained. Everyone (including the press) wants to see an “S” blow the competition away.

Volker.Berlin | 2011年11月7日

petero, Elon sees it the same way:

"There must be no flaws Tesla can detect of any kind once the car leaves the factory because customers are going to judge us particularly by the early quality," he says. "Every car must be perfect."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/hannahelliott/2011/11/02/elon-musk-tesla-mod...

Mycroft | 2011年11月7日

petero, Tesla is a little smarter in this regard. Note that they are not allowing press to drive the betas for this very reason, even though they know that this will reduce press coverage to the "Style" section of most publishers, if that.

Contrast that with Fisker who entered their pre-production car to Motor Trend as a candidate for car of the year.
http://wot.motortrend.com/2012-motor-trend-car-of-the-year-contender-fis...

Can you imagine Tesla submitting the Alpha or the Beta for that matter for some car of the year award?

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

@Mycroft - Good point. The irony, of course, is the Model S will win 2012 car of the year.

Mycroft | 2011年11月7日

Make that 2013 car of the year. 2012 coty is this month. :)

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

@Mycroft - Yes, you are correct: 2013 Car of the Year :-)

Denis Vincent | 2011年11月7日

Car of the Century!

Robert.Boston | 2011年11月7日

I think we've got about 88 more years before that title could be awarded. :-)

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

Did anyone upgrade to a Signature or reserved a general production over the weekend?

I'm surprised the Bellevue event did not generate more reservations/upgrades.

Then again, as the stores open, I feel we may see fewer new members on this forum. Just my speculation, of course.

dsecrist | 2011年11月7日

Made my general production reservation at the Bellevue opening last weekend. Reservation #5682.

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

@decrist - Welcome!

michiganmodels | 2011年11月7日

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 639 (November 4, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,682 (November 7, 2011)

Canada
S 98 (November 4, 2011)
P 214 (November 1, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 510 (October 14, 2011)

Switzerland
S14 (October 20, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,752 - November 7, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

pmeyer1106 | 2011年11月7日

I am celebrating one year since I reserved my Model S (P2607). The wait is agonizing!

pmeyer1106 | 2011年11月7日

Sorry, P2627

toto_48313 | 2011年11月7日

@ pmeyer we are a lot waiting for more than 2 years... it's coming, be patient.

S#5

VolkerP | 2011年11月8日

michiganmodels,

you should contact Tesla so they provide new reservation holders with a link to this thread ;-)

Rachel de Gelder | 2011年11月8日

Hello, made my reservation October 25th. Coming from The Netherlands, Europe.
General production # 552.
The (long) wait starts.......

VolkerP | 2011年11月8日

verwelkomen, Rachel!

long wait is a relative thing. You should get your Model S in Q2 2013. I will take delivery after 3.5 years...

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

@Rachel de Gelder - Welcome!

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 639 (November 4, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,682 (November 7, 2011)

Canada
S 98 (November 4, 2011)
P 214 (November 1, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
552 (October 25, 2011)

Switzerland
S14 (October 20, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,794 - November 7, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 639 (November 4, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,682 (November 7, 2011)

Canada
S 98 (November 4, 2011)
P 214 (November 1, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 552 (October 25, 2011)

Switzerland
S14 (October 20, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,794 - November 7, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

Brian H | 2011年11月8日

That was an increase of 42 over 11 days in the EU P count. It's also been a while since the EU S count was updated. And nothing since Spring from Hong Kong and Australia.

David den Boer | 2011年11月8日

I received P 5748 today.

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

Dernboer@mac.com - Welcome!

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 639 (November 4, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,748 (November 8, 2011)

Canada
S 98 (November 4, 2011)
P 214 (November 1, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 552 (October 25, 2011)

Switzerland
S14 (October 20, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,860 - November 8, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

DomandMai | 2011年11月8日

Just got my reservation today. S 651

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

acerdom - welcome!

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

This thread is intended to track Model S reservations.

If your reservation number is greater than the reservation number listed below, please post the 1) reservation number / date received 2) region and 3) type: Signature or General Production.

Here is an updated collection of the numbers posted by members on various threads and forums (i.e., these numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt):

US
S 651 (November 8, 2011)
SSL 189 (October 5, 2011)
R 270 (June 1, 2011)
P 5,748 (November 8, 2011)

Canada
S 98 (November 4, 2011)
P 214 (November 1, 2011)

Europe/Asia
S 99 (October 14, 2011)
P 552 (October 25, 2011)

Switzerland
S 14 (October 20, 2011)

UK
S 13 (May 21, 2011)

Hong Kong
S 2 (April 27, 2011)
R 2 (July 9, 2011)
P 1 (March 23, 2011)

Australia
S 9 (April 10, 2011)
P 10 (June 5, 2011)

Total: 7,872 - November 8, 2011

S = Signature Series (Model S)
SSL = Signature Special List (Model S)
R = Roadster Owner/Friends and Family
P = General Production (Model S)

Mycroft | 2011年11月8日

Finally some movement on the Sig list! And 651 is from Texas, totally unrelated to Bellevue. Where are all the Washingtonians!

michiganmodels | 2011年11月8日

Mycroft - My thoughts exactly. With the Washington EV State Tax Incentives and the Bellevue opening, I would expect the Washingtonians to come out of the woodwork! Still there have been 81 new reservations since Friday (81 that we have accounted for, obviously more).

brianman | 2011年11月8日

One could say the Texas reserve was a delayed reaction to the store opening there. And that the Bellevue opening will have a similar delayed reaction.

Or maybe not. :)

Mycroft | 2011年11月8日

Your right. It could take a week or two or three to get the cash together.

Denis Vincent | 2011年11月8日

There's no shortage of cash in the "Lonestar State", however getting tied into the forum may take a week or two...?!

michiganmodels | 2011年11月9日

@Denis Vincnet - I believe you are correct. For those reserving in stores, there seems to be a lag finding this forum .

sarge7359 | 2011年11月9日

I might be an anomaly, but I found these forums and lurked for a bit before going by the store and dropping a check off for my Sig reservation. Even with the poor performing forums (they seem better now, imho), I still managed to find this particular thread and became worried that the Sigs would be sold out if I didn't make a special trip out to San Mateo!

Looks like I didn't need to worry, since I'll be over in San Jose for the koi show this weekend. I was originally planning to get Sig reservation then... which would have put me 60-70 cars behind my current reservation.

Aren't the Sigs just about sold out? I'm not clear if it is 1000 worldwide or 1000 US only? The SSL + Sig looks like 940 cars right now just in the US. Then another 98 in Canada and 99 in Europe -- that's well over 1000 if the SSL is a separate number from the Sigs but counted as part of the total.

Norbert.Vienna | 2011年11月10日

@sarge7359
they never run out of sigs
according what I heared they will accept sig orders till they start the production...the first produced are the sigs

Robert.Boston | 2011年11月10日

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/facts states:
The first 1,000 Model S vehicles delivered in the United States and the first 200 in Canada will be Signatures.

Summing the S and SSL numbers in the U.S., we were at 840 Signature reservations on Nov. 8, up 16 from Nov. 4. That left 160 slots, being sold at a rate of 4/day, which would suggest that they will take the order for Signature #1000 somewhere around Dec. 18.

It's possible, I suppose, that they will take additional Signature reservations above S#1000 if they have had cancellations that created open slots.

Mycroft | 2011年11月10日

Odds are pretty good that they have quite a few open slots since they haven't compressed the list.

Another unknown is whether the S list includes the SSLs at the beginning or if the SSL is a separate list entirely. For all we know, like the Founder's series, the SSL could be a separate series from the 1,000 Sigs. Unlikely, but possible.

Robert.Boston | 2011年11月10日

Hmm...I agree that the P list probably has a 10% compression or so, I'm hard-pressed to explain why more than a handful of S reservations would have dropped off yet. Anyone who was serious enough to plunk $40k down seems unlikely to change his mind now, at least until he's driven one. Unless he had a bankruptcy judgement...

GoTeslaChicago | 2011年11月11日

Or a divorce judgement. :-)

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