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GROUP BUY: Suma Performance Convex Side Mirrors WITHOUT Blue Tint

GROUP BUY: Suma Performance Convex Side Mirrors WITHOUT Blue Tint

Hey everyone,

I've been working with Suma Performance to organize a group buy for their new convex side mirrors without the anti-glare coating (blue tint). Many people, myself included, have asked Suma to produce a version of their mirrors without the blue tint. Thank you Suma for listening to your consumers! :)

For those who are unfamiliar with convex mirrors, they provide a wider field of view to help eliminate blind spots. Check out this comparison video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XnsR0RtWQ The mirror in the video is Suma's standard mirror with blue tint. This group buy is for a revised version without the tint.

The mirrors are currently in the pre-order stage with an anticipated delivery of late January. Pre-order/group buy will be available today until December 27 11:59PM PST (link will be listed below).

Details on Group Buy:
-Regular price of the mirrors will be $149.95 with defroster or $179.95 with defroster + turn signals.
-Anyone who pre-orders will automatically receive a 5% discount.
-If 10 or more people pre-order we will each receive a 10% discount.
-If 20 or more people pre-order we will each receive a 20% discount.
Pre-orders are non-refundable.

So base on my calculations, if we hit 20 people your final cost will be $119.96‬ for the defroster model or $‭143.96‬ for defroster + turn signal model.

If you want to join the group buy, you can go ahead and place your pre-order. After you're finished, just post your order number in this thread (or PM me) and I'll add your name to the list. As mentioned, pre-order pricing will be at a 5% discount. Assuming we do hit our target goal of 10 or 20% discount, the difference will be refunded to you between December 18 - December 20.
Pre-order link: https://www.sumaperformance.com/products/model-3-non-blue

Other things to note before you order:
-Shipping is $6.95 (USA) or $17 (international). Maybe I can ask Suma to offer free shipping if we hit a certain quota? ;)
-As with their regular convex mirrors, you will lose the auto-dimming feature of the OEM mirror.
-Installation of the defroster model is quite simple. Should take no more than 15-20 minutes.
-Installation of the turn-sign variant is more involved (2-3 hours) and will require taking apart panels and splicing wires.

Personal Experience:
I purchased the standard blue tinted convex mirrors and have been using them since October. Overall, I've been very satisfied with them. The additional information you gain from the wider angle really helps with lane changing. If you adjust them properly, you should have close to zero blind spots. If you've never used a convex mirror before, it could take a little bit of time to get used to. But honestly it only took me a few days before they felt normal. My one and only gripe with the mirrors was the blue tint. My car windows are already tinted (25%), and the addition of the blue tint on the mirrors made it even more difficult to see at night. Keep in mind though that other people with lighter window tints (35% or higher) have mentioned the blue tint being a non-issue for them. Without the tint you will lose any kind of glare protection, but for me that's not a big deal at all. I was never a fan of auto-dimming mirrors to begin with. Plus I prefer the normal non-blue look :)‬‬

catrx21 | 2019年12月3日

I forgot to mention this is only for the Model 3.

calvin940 | 2019年12月3日

Go away Eagles

catrx21 | 2019年12月4日

It's a replacement of your OEM glass. Should be a very simple 15 minute job. Here's a video of an install on a Model S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=08KhR1kDgEA&feature=emb_...

jebinc | 2019年12月5日

-@catrx21

It would be helpful for all, including you, if you periodically posted the pre-order count.... Just sayin'

jebinc | 2019年12月5日

P.S.

I ran a group buy for mud flaps on another forum a while back (long closed), with similar pricing structure and quantities. By posting pre-order count, we ended up with over 150 pre-orders in six days (Group buy window).

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/3831797/

catrx21 | 2019年12月5日

@FISHEV

Yes the mirrors come as a pair.

As for the turn signal install, from what I hear it's a relatively straightforward process but takes a bit of time (2-3 hours). Here's a video of someone installing it on a Tesla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ACj6YnBrU&feature=emb_title

I can't comment on integrating your BSI system into the mirrors since this I have no knowledge of that but you can try to contact Suma Performance on their website and see if they could provide any help. They are very good with communication.

catrx21 | 2019年12月5日

@jebinc

Good idea! I was going to post an update once we hit 20 but probably better to do it now to help sway some people. I'm still confirming the official number of pre-orders since apparently not everyone who ordered notified me so my list of names is currently at 10 but I believe the number of actual pre-orders is at 15.

catrx21 | 2019年12月5日

@FISHEV

That does sound like a great idea! Not sure how cost efficient that would be to do though? I tried Googling Drydeen BSI system to see if I could learn more about it but came up empty. Can you provide a link for some additional info?

catrx21 | 2019年12月5日

@FISHEV

Very nice system. I like that it's minimally invasive as far as installation goes. Also the added bonus of reverse cross traffic monitoring is great. At $1300 it's too steep for me though.

Sounds like the Rydeen would work with the Suma mirrors then?

catrx21 | 2019年12月6日

@Fishev

Been hearing you are some type of troll? If it’s true then thanks for the thread bump I guess lol.

FISHEV | 2019年12月6日

"Sounds like the Rydeen would work with the Suma mirrors then?"

I emailed Suma as you suggested so we'll see. The Rydeen is expensive but a lot of it is labor. No doubt a high profit product for the mfg and installers. Suma could do it all themselves with a self contained mirror/sensor/light in mirror.

TickTock | 2019年12月6日

I'm in for order #1436

JJBMPK | 2019年12月6日

Can someone explain the turn signal option? My Model 3 doesn’t have turn signals in the mirrors but we can add it in?
Thanks and sorry if it is posted somewhere else just figured it should be here for the pre-order.

JJBMPK | 2019年12月6日

Can someone explain the turn signal option? My Model 3 doesn’t have turn signals in the mirrors but we can add it in?
Thanks and sorry if it is posted somewhere else just figured it should be here for the pre-order.

TickTock | 2019年12月6日

@catrx21 - I put the folks who make a habit of name-calling on my block list. Fish does have a knack for flushing them out into the open. ;-)

WW_spb | 2019年12月6日

Disclaimer!
Fish is long time Troll that has been banned in the past under different nickname. Please take his information with grain of salt. Thank you.

catrx21 | 2019年12月7日

@JJBPMK Here's a video with the turn signal installed on a WRX. It'll look the same on the Tesla

5:20 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Goy4J2IKA

FISHEV | 2019年12月7日

"Can someone explain the turn signal option? My Model 3 doesn’t have turn signals in the mirrors but we can add it in?"

In the video, the mirror had a turn signal built in. An early model maybe. The ones for sale in the link above look to only have the defroster circuit in them..

I wanted to use the unused turn signal light in the replacement mirror in the video as a Blind Spot Indicator warning light but taking a Tesla signal and running it to the mirror or use the signal from third party BSI system from Rydeen (see link above) to power the unused turn signal light.

Again it doesn't look like the Model 3 blind spot mirrors have the turn signal light in them.

I did ask Suma and Rydeen to collaborate and produce the product so we'll see. There is obviously a large enough market for a good BSI system on Model 3's that the Suma mirrors as selling.

My Rydeen BSI system works great. Real BSI in a Model 3. Lights mount inside on the A-pillar. As a bonus, the Rydeen system provides the missing Cross Traffic Warning alert also.

catrx21 | 2019年12月7日

@FISHEV Suma still offers the turn signal version of their side mirrors. It's an extra $30.

FISHEV | 2019年12月7日

"Suma still offers the turn signal version of their side mirrors. It's an extra $30."

Didn't see that.

The Rydeens BSI system and warning lights work great so no real need to do it.

catrx21 | 2019年12月7日

We made it to 20! Thank you everyone for participating! Pre-orders are still open till 12/17. So if you want in on the 20% make sure you order now.

catrx21 | 2019年12月9日

Just received word from @SumaPerformance that they updated the pre-order page to now reflect the 20% discount. New pricing is $119.96. Everyone who previously ordered will get reimbursed in the next few days. I already received an email regarding the $22.49 refund.

Also, everyone who already pre-ordered will get their orders shipped late January. Pre-orders from now till 12/17 will be shipped late February.

FISHEV | 2019年12月9日

"Sounds like the Rydeen would work with the Suma mirrors then?"

Suma said it was interesting and could work but a future project for them. Apparently the Tesla blind spot mirrors and other accessories are keeping them busy.

I'd buy a new set if they included the BSI in the mirror and I could use Rydeen's BSI sensor output to run it. Balance would be restored the universe.

andy.connor.e | 2019年12月9日

There are a bunch of @FISHEV posts from earlier in the month with no posts from FISHEV anymore. Looks like that account was banned and there are multiple accounts under the name "FISHEV". Please take note that this account is a known misinformation troll that has existed on this forum since 2016, and please do yourself a favor and disregard all comments from the account FISHEV.