They got that right :))
Maybe a competitor to the Roadster.
Well, the commercial was kinda dumb. You notice that Porsche wouldn’t go as far as to suggest their Taycan could outrun their ICE models. But let’s be fair, buying a Super Bowl ad is not compliance car behavior. So let’s give credit where credit is due.
Now the GMC Hummer is all electric. I guess the Model X will have a competitor.
Lol Hummer. Just like Ford's Mustang EV. They all playing catch up game and losing.
An electric that provides the least value for money - that is an electric that steals you ;)
If only Tesla did Commercials. I can see a cybertruck going up a hill with a hummer electric on its back. Then the hummer owner saying thanks for the help. Tesla owner, who looks a lot like Musk, responds...the plan was always for us all to make it to the top.
Maybe Taycan underreported range lol
Audi eTron joins the fun...not bad, they pitted ICE as the clear enemy
@spuzzz - I agree, that ad was in good EV spirit. But I immediately told my wife that you'd have to be pretty dumb to buy an eTron instead of a Tesla.
I had a big discussion with the others about EVs at our Superbowl party until things got interesting at the game.
It basically centered about how Tesla was winning BECAUSE they don't have an ad at superbowl.
Can anyone honestly say they had a good discussion about EVs without bringing Tesla into context?
I liked the Porsche tractor in the commercial.
didnt watch the game
It is a beautiful car. Like most Porsches.
While the commercial was to promote the Taycan and EV technology, the real message was the rich history of all their performance cars....all those cars were the leaders of their time. They are saying they will dominate indirectly. At least in that category. Time will tell as VW Group starts down the EV path in a bigger way. That commercial was the short version, look on internet for the full version.
Even Ford ran a Mach-E commercial. Didn't count all the car commercials, but seemed like 1/2 were for EVs, which is cool.
Ads were $5.6M per 30 seconds!
So it’s a trade off between 30 seconds of ad time, or 5-10 FSD engineers for a year. Tesla is investing its money wisely.
In Soviet Russia...
@Garyeop; that's a great concept for an ad. I like it! Tesla should make you the head of advertising, if they needed any.
It is a beautiful car.
If I had silly money, I'd find an EV rebuilder to retrofit a Taycan with Tesla electronics. Oh yeah, and a plaid powertrain. And... nevermind, I guess I'd just wait for a new Roadster.
Im digging the stainless steel now. Probably wont buy another car with paint.
if they do their own independent study and it results in a larger range than the EPA could get, all its going to do is piss off customers more than Teslas do because that 10 mile trip is going to cost people 18 miles everytime, and people are going to throw their arms up alot higher. But hey, its their money.
"if they do their own independent study and it results in a larger range than the EPA could get, all its going to do is piss off customers more than Teslas do because that 10 mile trip is going to cost people 18 miles everytime, and people are going to throw their arms up alot higher."
You have it backwards, Porsche has obviously put in a 20% cushion for the temp and speed issues that have such a big impact on EV range. The Taycan owners are going to be bragging about exceeding range in Summer and not seeing the 30% drop in range in Winter.
Now here's something that will warm the hearts of Teslerati, our Porsche Panamera PHEV owner was grousing he had to drop car off at Porsche for four hours to do an update. It was arduous. He drove to Porsche, they gave him keys to Cayenne Turbo S to drive and then drove his car to his house and picked up the Cayenne. All for just $125,000.
Can't see our Porsche Porcupine's holding out much longer, one of them is going to pop for the Taycan.
Finally, an electric that blows you - Taycan. Finally...
Keep on dreaming Fish
As usual, Fish is wrong
Can't wait for my CyberTruck
One of the guys Porsche paid to come to the European press junket was able to hypermile in SoCal. Stop the presses.
So if Benz cut their production numbers bc of shortage of batteries, how will this effect MachE and Porsche?
It’s confirmed that Taycan gets more than enough range. It’s a rather silly and ignorant thing to argue about range in a car that can cover daily your driving needs, has a DC fast charging network and does what you want it to do. For example, Model S Long Range has a longer range than Taycan... but if I’m looking for a sports car then Model S is not really a great car for that. So it’s longer range is irrelevant.
Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, +1. Though “battery shortage” was the public reason given. From various reports from GErmany, the EQC is not selling very well.
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Porsche’s range estimator probably is close to the Edmund’s results when you plug in eco mode and country roads.
@FISH - that autoblog report shows exactly what everyone has been saying except for @Darth.
Yes, you can get more range when you drive slowly in any EV. Directly from the article about driving it: "with much of it in the 35-to-45-mph range". I'd guess in the Tesla you should be able to get 450 and maybe 500 miles if you're willing to drive at 35 mph.
From same article: "The Taycan’s consumption rating is 49 kilowatt-hours per 100 miles (kWh/100), which is frankly terrible.".
Once you read it you discover how bad the Taycan is. Sad really, as it had a lot going for it conceptually.
darth is back? definitely a short squeeze
Seriously the Taycan has what, a 95kw battery and we're supposed to be impressed that it was able to eek out 250 miles in ideal conditions???? And for the low low price of only two fully loaded Performance Model 3's that get 60-70 more miles of range in the same conditions with 20 less kilowatts of battery juice. Well golly I'm going to run out and buy one because Porsche!
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vmulla: Strangely, the same basic cadence as GM's early advertisement for the Chevrolet VOLT...
"FINALLY, AN ELECTRIC CAR THAT RUNS ON GAS..."
Garyeop: Yeah, that would be cool. Would it be Claymation, Muppets, SuperMarionation, or LEGO computer animation...?
Kary993: That is a... generous viewpoint of Porsche's intent with the commercial. I found it funny myself. Still hate Porsche cars. I don't give a [FLAMING FIG] about tradition, heritage, craftsmanship, history, legacy, or any of the other marketing buzzwords they use in their commercials. I am still waiting for a traditional conventional legacy ICE automobile manufacturer to simply come out and lay it all on the line.
"ICE and fossil fuels are killing the world. So we have resolved to simply stop contributing to the problem. From now on, all our cars will be fully electric. Because battery electric vehicles are simply BETTER in all the ways that matter. Thank you for your support and consideration as we undertake this transition."
But... considering how they've dragged their heels, kicking and scratching, screaming bloody murder at the prospect for the past thirty years...? I won't be holding my breath at the possibility.
TeslaTap: Well the least that Ford did was sort of equivalent to the least that Volkswagen did. They each made fully electric versions of their most popular vehicles in the world for the U.S. market, in limited quantities, for a mere $20,000 premium over their ICE versions and with a drastically reduced range. The FOCUS Electric and e-GOLF. Yay...? Neither Toyota (Corolla) nor Honda (Civic) were willing to risk even that minimal effort. ;-)
coselectric: I think Porsche products are rather universally ugly, other than the Porsche 550 RS Spyder, 928 S4+, Cayman 718, and a few others. The Mission-e Concept from five years ago was stunningly beautiful. Its bastard Son, the Taycan, just looks like a Porsche. Dissapointing to me. But at least Porsche fans like it, I guess.
Darth[CRACKHEAD]: It is confirmed that crackheads who make such comments prefer to ride bicycles intead of driving.
The Edmunds author and namesake apparently doesn’t understand the EPA efficiency figure which also includes losses from the wall. Pretty sad. Nepotism anyone?
Flag and move on, flag and move on..
Fish is tripping
You guys have no clue what Porsche is. Go drive one, then come back here and tell us its a better car than a Tesla.
Fanboi is strong in this one.
Funny, back in 1989 I bought one of those limited production "no frills" Porsche Speedsters. Very down to earth car and the handling felt much like my M3P. Which is to say, really great.
Pretty impressive that their 31 year old car drives as nice as your 2020 Model 3, heh?
Now picture driving a new Porsche.
Nothing compares, and I LOVE my model 3.
Now let's compare apples to apples. Which is Taycan EV VS Tesla Roadster. And now you see why Porshe blows big time
I wouldn't know. Either would you. You've obviously never driven a Porsche, and certainly haven't driven a roadster.
But yes, that will be the ultimate comparison. If the Roadster drives anywhere as good as the Taycan, Tesla will have a true drivers car in their line up. Which is amazing.