Can anyone confirm the HUD is a 'No-Go' for the Model 3?

Can anyone confirm the HUD is a 'No-Go' for the Model 3?

I've read quite a few comments related to the HUD technology not being available in the Model 3. As of today, I haven't been able to find reliable information confirming this assumption. Thanks for the information.

Efontana | 2017年4月5日

Communication has been ambiguously no.

KP in NPT | 2017年4月5日
lilbean | 2017年4月5日

Was there any indication that there would be?

KP in NPT | 2017年4月5日

@bean it was all speculation that took a life of its own after the reveal and no second screen was announced. Tesla should have smacked it down long ago but they didn't and so when it was finally denied people were disappointed - the speculation went on too long IMO.

lilbean | 2017年4月5日

Thanks, KP. I always wondered.

carlk | 2017年4月5日

"No go" are wrong words. It's like saying Megan Fox will not be marrying me.

Red Sage ca us | 2017年4月5日

Elon Musk could confirm it if he wanted to.

lilbean | 2017年4月5日

That makes sense, carlk. :-)

mntlvr23 | 2017年4月6日

@carlk - lol

Ross1 | 2017年4月6日

I see it differently.
Tesla may have been expecting to use something better {like holograms), so Elon said 'no HUD'.
But in the event the better option is not ready, they could well temporarily revert to old tech.

Red Sage ca us | 2017年4月6日

Ross: A good point, similar to one I've been making for around three years now. The basic technology that is used for a general HUD has been used in various automotive capacities for over 30 years now. It is basically a value added gimmick, not a real necessity at all. Almost always monochromatic, it is not advanced enough to be 'forward thinking' anymore, and thus doesn't meet the threshold of design intent for Tesla products.

What most people call 'holograms' aren't really. And, some have called current HUD technology a hologram, in the same way hybrid cars were once referred to as 'an electric car that runs on gas'. Such erroneous notions should not be courted at all, and that's why it was shot down on twitter.

I think that Elon Musk wants something 'better' if it is to be used in any capacity. Something that doesn't require special glasses or goggles. Something that works just as well with the naked eye as with polarized prescription lenses. Something that seems to 'float' in mid-air, but doesn't fade in bright sunlight and is still clearly visible regardless of seating height or viewing angle.

mos6507 | 2017年4月6日

It's funny watching people talk out of both sides of their mouth. When it suits them they say "Wouldn't be prudent. Model 3 is supposed to be inexpensive" and on the other they say "Wouldn't be prudent. Not state-of-the-art enough."

The only consistency is a desire to rationalize some bad design calls on Tesla's part, whether it's about the secondary display or the mysterious louver-free vent layout.

Carl Thompson | 2017年4月6日

"Wouldn't be prudent."

We doing GB41?

michael | 2017年4月6日

So if there's no hud. Does this mean there will be no status indicators directly in front of the driver?
I think having a big screen in the center is fine in general. But isn't it safer and easier for the driver to have it right in front of them?

EaglesPDX | 2017年4月6日

" But isn't it safer and easier for the driver to have it right in front of them?"

Yes but I think we are into what is legal vs. what is safer, easier in this case. The top of they computer does sit high up on the dash so it may be legal, similar to Prius top center dash.

Engage Autopilot. Look at screen. See "Collision Imminent" warning. Look up.

michael | 2017年4月6日

So I guess the assumption is that the driver won't be actively engaged with driving as this to even be an issue.

Frank99 | 2017年4月6日

Placed on the display, it's at the very least no worse and likely better than the normal position below the steering wheel rim, IMHO. I think there are better places to put it (HUD or above the steering wheel rim like the Civic), but all-in-all I think it's a tempest in a teapot.

EaglesPDX | 2017年4月6日

"So I guess the assumption is that the driver won't be actively engaged with driving as this to even be an issue."

I was kidding above but using Autopilot will making looking at the screen and trying suss out the information one is looking a bit less dangerous.

When I use Subaru's version of Autopilot (Eyesight), it beeps when acquiring a target ahead in the range I have selected. This typically means the car will be slowing down to match the target speed. I want to know the speed impact at that point to decide whether to pass or not.

Having the speed in front of me, digital and analog display, while keeping road in peripheral vision is the best design. HUD would be even better.

Ross1 | 2017年4月6日

Red Sage:
You are adequately describing the 8i Holo app.

Ross1 | 2017年4月9日


Tesla wants everyone to know: The Model 3 won’t be more advanced than the Model S

Yoni Heisler @edibleapple
April 8th, 2017 at 4:30 PM
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With Tesla poised to begin Model 3 production in just about three months, the company in recent weeks has taken steps to temper unreasonably high expectations surrounding its $35,000 EV designed for the masses. Arguably fueled by Elon Musk’s coy remarks about mysterious “reveals” in the future, the speculation surrounding Tesla’s Model 3 in recent months was on the verge of spiraling out of control. In a general sense, many people began to assume that the Model 3 would introduce features and technology far more advanced than what is currently available on the company’s flagship Model 3.

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Bringing those expectations back down to earth, Elon Musk about two weeks ago indicated the opposite is true, noting via Twitter that the Model 3 is simply a smaller and more affordable version of the Model S with “less range & power & fewer features.” For example, the Model 3 dashboard will not incorporate a HUD and will be as sparse as the dashboard we saw when Tesla first introduced the car last year. Additionally, the Model 3 will not feature the “auto extend handles” available on the Model S and the Model X. As far as dimensions are concerned, the Model 3 will be about 20% smaller than the Model S.

In effect, Tesla wants current reservation holders and prospective buyers to be fully aware of the fact that the Model 3 will be a lesser version of the Model S in every regard, save of course for cost. Seeking to drive this point home in a manner far more official than Twitter, Tesla this week went so far as to publish a blogpost clarifying that while the Model 3 may be newer than the Model S, it will not be the company’s flagship car.

The post reads in part:

While Model 3 will be our newest car, it isn’t “Version 3” or the next generation Tesla. Our higher priced premium models still include the most advanced technology and the best driving experience we have to offer.

Model S is the leader in its class in every category, which is why 94 percent of our owners say they will buy Model S again. It has a 5-star safety rating and will continue to be our flagship Model with more range, more acceleration, more power, more passenger and cargo room, more displays (two) and more customization choices… Model S will also continue to be the longest-range vehicle we offer, capable of a landmark 335 miles on a single charge, meaning you can travel from Los Angeles to San Francisco nonstop.

Model 3 is smaller, simpler, and will come with far fewer options than Model S, but it makes driving feel effortless and offers a good range of at least 215 miles for our starting model.

Indeed, the two areas where the Model 3 will be able to stand toe to toe with the Model S include overall safety features and the option for autonomous driving software.

Tesla’s framing of the Model 3 in this regard is a smart move. The last thing the company wants is for reservation holders to fork over $35,000+ for a car with wildly outlandish expectations regarding what the car will be able to do. As some folks have opined on Twitter, the Model 3 vs Model S comparison is akin to the difference between the iPhone SE and the iPhone 7.

andyongc | 2017年4月9日

Thanks all for your thoughts and comments. Thanks Ross for the latest post. That clearly make sense. I big screen in the middle would be find with me as well. For $35k+ I'm not expecting to outbuild the Model S. I just don't want to have another 'electric' IS250 or 325...

Ross1 | 2017年4月9日


RedPillSucks | 2017年4月9日

I heard Megan Fox saying that she wanted your number

Ross1 | 2017年4月10日

hat size lol